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Old 07-26-2006, 11:56 PM   #11
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I don't understand your question. I don't have any arguments against Aesop's Fables or Shaespeare.
Does that mean that Aesop's Fables are true?
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The city was never sacked. And it certainly hasn't never been found again, nor has it remained uninhabited and a bare rock.
I saw live TV reports from a city that the Israelis were bombing.

All a giant hoax apparently, as the city doesn't exist.....
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I thought those certain aspects in Ezek. 26.12,14 were accomplished fduring Alexander the Great. Alexander threw the rubble of the mainland city into the sea until it made a bridge to the island. Then he marched across the bridge and destroyed the island in 322 BC. Today the island is still a pile of rubble.
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Atheist Scathe,

Doesn't the Bible describe their experiences, giving their testimonies with corroboration with the other writers of similar events? It's hard to believe everyone is lying.

I think the Bible says there are no gods also, that they are just imagination.
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I don't think the Bible says there was a worldwide flood but that it was only local.

Why don't you think the Jews were enslaved in Egypt and left Egypt to go to Midian then to Canaan?

Why don't you believe the battles took place?

What Bible contradictions?

If people are sacrificing their children in fire, should God let them keep doing that or should he destroy them?
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A Fable is a fable right? Are fables true?
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I thought those certain aspects in Ezek. 26.12,14 were accomplished fduring Alexander the Great. Alexander threw the rubble of the mainland city into the sea until it made a bridge to the island. Then he marched across the bridge and destroyed the island in 322 BC. Today the island is still a pile of rubble.
Anything Alexander did is irrelevent, the prophecy is talking about Nebuchadnezzer.

If you say Sally is going to the store to get Milk, Bacon, and Cheese. And then Sally goes and get's milk and then John comes along and get bacon and cheese, was your original statement correct?

Plus the city was not a pile of rubble. Else Jesus would have had difficulty visiting it.
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Provide your best arguments against the Bible?

Only your top 2 or 3 arguments! I am not interested in your petty disputes.
sorry I can't. I'm pretty sure the bible exists, can't argue with that. I've even read it a few times.

unless you mean against the bible's truthfulness?

Depends what you want me to argue against.
Are you of the opinion thatthe bible is comletely inerrant and has no intrernal inconsistencie and everything in it is complete fact (including genisis, the flood, exodus etc)?
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Provide your best arguments against the Bible?

Only your top 2 or 3 arguments! I am not interested in your petty disputes.
1. Your God is a figment of your aquired imagination.
2. You're God can't stop me from clicking "Submit Reply"
3. You (if your God does not exist) will read this.

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I don't think the Bible says there was a worldwide flood but that it was only local.
Then you aren't reading your Bible. As far as the tale is concerned, the Flood was supposedly worldwide. Supposedly enough water rained down in the space of forty days to flood the entire planet. That's not rain...that's hydraulic mining!
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Why don't you think the Jews were enslaved in Egypt and left Egypt to go to Midian then to Canaan?
No trace of Egyptian influence in art, wrting, or traditions in Canaan. After several generations of enslavement, there would be virtually no possibility that the Hebrew culture would have been utterly untouched. No physical traces of a mass migration crom Egypt to Canaan. Modern archaeologists have been able to trace mass migrations even older than the supposed Exodus, and yet not one trace of this massive pilgrimage has been found. A lack of evidence where there should be evidence speaks volumes.
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Why don't you believe the battles took place?
Archaelogists recently found what they believe to be Jericho. No trace of any kind of defensive wall around the place, and no trace of destruction by battle. How about a battle led by Joshua, where supposedly the sun stopped in the sky for a full day so Joshua's people could continue the slaughter? How can I be asked to believe such things when the physical (real) world evidence says otherwise?
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What Bible contradictions?
Don't get me started: http://faithskeptic.50megs.com/contradictions.htm
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.co...a/by_name.html
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If people are sacrificing their children in fire, should God let them keep doing that or should he destroy them?
Beyond the Bible saying so, is there any evidence that says that people were doing this? Of course not. A few centuries later, the Romans were making similar claims about the Christian cult. Did that make it true? Even if it were so, surely a god would have other alternatives than destruction. How about a miraculous appearance or two, warning them of their behavior? How about simply inflicting a massive conversion. Surely God can change people's minds if he wants to. Why is total destruction of a people...including the children and babies...nessecary?

EVIDENCE. Not just a book's say-so. EVIDENCE. What does the evidence say?
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