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Does Christianity condemn forgery?
In a post on the Debunking Christianity blog, Lying, Salvation and the Word of God: Proselytizing and the Fabrication Scriptures in Judaism and Christianity, Harry H. McCall writes:
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"Scripture" vs. Scripture
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The authors at the time certainly were not fans of forgery or alteration of texts. Even in those texts that have been forged (often time especially in those texts that have been forged), the practice of forgery and 'false teaching' is either implicitly or explicitly condemned.[HR="1"]100[/HR] I didn't read the rest of your link yet. But with an opening like that it is difficult to believe it contains anything too worthwhile. Jon |
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Christianity cannot openly condemn the new testament (and Eusebius) as a forgery - "business is business" after all is said and done. Of course Christians are very much aware to the presence of forgery. Also for example see Robin Lane-Fox's comments on the forged Sybil swinging from the chandeliers in Constantine's Oration c.324/325 CE. The condemnation of pious forgery is most often levelled by ancient historians. For example: Quote:
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The early christians without exception (almost) before Nicaea, and certainly without exception after Nicaea, accused and condemned the Gnostics over forgery of the new testament and associated Greek LXX. It seems that the orthodox were in a position to condem Gnostic "forgery" of the non canonical Gospels and Acts, etc. The author does mention this: Quote:
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There isn't much point in condemning something that you think cannot be done. If a document was regarded as scripture, then, more or less by definition, it was not a fabrication.
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Myself I have no idea what sort of thinking went into composing the books of Maccabees. Without a lot of study of how they came to be composed, how they came to be used, and so forth, I'd really hesitate to make the kind of judgements that the blogger makes. The attitude of the church to forged "scriptures" has always been rather unambiguous, even if the author merely intended to novelise rather than to create a fraud. The author of the Acts of Paul was defrocked when found, as Tertullian tells us in De Baptismo 18. The attitude of the church to the Jewish apocrypha reflects the fact that the Jews were uncertain about much of this literature in the time of Christ. Jerome, who was in contact with 4th century Jewish rabbis, rejects the lot IIRC. All the best, Roger Pearse |
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