Loomis

Cheer up. I don’t have you on ignore. You're not crazy. I understand you completely. I agree. Paul is a fictitious character. His ‘writings’ are a hoax and probably the product of several authors.

For a good laugh compare 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 with Galatians 1:11-12
I think that’s just hilarious.

aa5874

I just repeat the crazy stuff in the NT and church writings. I must admit that the writer Paul, although a liar and a fraud, may have been[ mad beyond belief.

By the way, no-one really has me on "ignore," they are watching me like hawks patiently waiting for me to make some blunder.

But they will have to wait and wait and wait.

It is all over. I have all the supportimg information, now.

Jesus was a fictional character and the writer Paul was a fraud, a liar and was involved in the scheme to distort the true history of Jesus believers.

Doug Shaver

I don't suppose that means you'll go away now and stop bothering us?

Reliable Skeptic

I agree. Pauls agenda was not to promote or advance the teachings of Jesus it was to promote his own brand of religion "Christianity".

http://www.inu.net/skeptic/paulsig.html

aa5874

But there was no real Jesus. Everything about Jesus of the NT was fabricated. All the authors of the NT were really supporing their own fabricated brand.

And how could the letter writer Paul have acted alone?

There must have been collusion with the Church.

The letters with the fictional first century character called Paul are FROM the Church TO the Jews.

The fictional first century character Paul did NOT address any real Pagan issues in any of his letters at all.

Look at a writer, Clement of Alexandria, who dealt with pagan issues in his writing with his "Exhortation to the Heathen."

Exhortation to the Heathen 2


There is just virtually nothing from the fictional first century writer called Paul about the pagan beliefs, the pagan gods or the pagan writers of the Romans, Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Colossians, Thesallonians or the Phillipians.

Nothing to match or compare to the vast amount of information about Paganism supplied by Clement can be found anywhere in the first century fiction called the letters to the churches by a writer called Paul.

However "Paul" did write about the Mosaic Laws and circumcision. It must be obvious he was writing to the Jews.

Paul was a fraud. He wrote to the Jews and falsely claimed he wrote to Gentiles.

arnoldo

So what is the true history of Jesus believers?

Reliable Skeptic

I do not know. You can find numerous sites that says he did and numerous ones that says he did not. I agree the NT authors were just supporting their own brand of fanaticism and may have had no interest at all in Jesus himself. Its sad really the way Paul went out, beheaded in Rome around mid 60AD was not left to suffer as his supposed Messiah did...

aa5874

Paul was executed? In which century? And more than one person, based on Scholars, used the name Paul to write letters.

I don't think it was the fraud who was executed since the story of Paul's execution was also fictional.

The writer Paul may have been reading from Acts of Apotles when he was supposed to be dead already.

aa5874

The letter writer called Paul is a liar, a fraud and part of the scheme to distort the true history of Jesus believers.

The letters of "Paul" are at the beginning supposedly written to Gentiles or Pagans but when examined the letters fundamentally only addressed Jewish traditional beliefs, there is virtually nothing about paganism.

The letter writer in the NT was supposed to be some kind of evangelist to the ROMAN EMPIRE yet when his letters are EXAMINED the letter writer appeared to have ONLY tried to evangelise the Jews.

The letter writer quoted hundreds of passages from the Hebrew Bible and virtually nothing from a pagan writer.

He made references to passages in Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deutoronomy, the books of Samuels, Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Malachi, Josiah, Habakuk, Hosea, Joel, Psalms, Job and other Hebrew scriptures.

It would appear that the letter readers are all Jews and familiar only with Jewish scriptures and tradition.

There is virtually nothing from a pagan writer or pagan beliefs and tradition.

Now, look at the writing of Athenagoras in his "Plea for the Christian" to a Pagan, the Roman Emperor.

Athenagoras immediately dealt with issues concerning Paganism in his letter.


A "Plea for the Christians" There is nothing in any letter from the writer called Paul to compare or provide any information about Paganism as found in the letter of Athenagoras.

But, there is information about Mosaic Laws, and circumcision, nothing about Zeus.

The writer Paul only wrote to the Jews.

Paul is a fraud and a liar.

IamJoseph

In Rome, in C 1, after he demanded his trial in Cesaerea be transfered to Rome, for Roman jurisdiction, citing his Roman citizenship. Saul of Tarsus was executed by the Romans because he was a Jew. The Nazerim and Ebonites, also Jewish, who revered Jesus - but not as per Saul's writings, and who expelled him from Jerusalem, were also killed off by the neo christians which sprung up in Europe.

Rome's decree of divine man thus became the basis for the new church, allowing it to eventually rule Rome and Europe -replacing crucifixion with the rake, expulsion, pogroms, genocdes and a Holocaust - superceding brutal Rome by the futherest margins imaginable. All of today's christians' ancesters were forcefully converted or killed off. The only group who survived Europe [barely] were the hated Jews - a mystery of biblical proportions.