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Old 02-07-2009, 10:12 AM   #1
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This is the writer called Paul in his so-called letters.

Galatians 1.20
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Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.
Galatians1.11-12
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But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
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3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
Well, I have searched the scriptures and the writer called Paul was a fraud.

Paul's lies knot.

The name Jesus Christ was from man not from revelation. The name of Jesus Christ of the NT is NOT in Jewish Scriptures. The writer with the name Paul got the name Jesus Christ from NT scriptures, from man, from the Jesus Christ stories.

The death and resurrection of Jesus Christ was NOT from revelation. The death and resurrection of Jesus Christ cannot be found anywhere in Jewish Scriptures.

The death and resurrection of Jesus can be found in NT scriptures, written by man.

The chronology of the resurrection of Jesus Christ is not in Jewish Scriptures, nowhere can it be found that a creature called Jesus Christ would be raised from the dead on the third day in the Jewish Scriptures.

The resurrection of Jesus Christ on the third day can be found in the NT and church writings.

The writer called Paul did not get his revelations from Jesus Christ but from MAN, from the authors of the Jesus stories.

Galatians3:22 -
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But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Again, there is no mention of the name Jesus Christ with the power to forgive sin in the Jewish Scriptures. Nowhere at all can it be found that Jews should believe in a character called Jesus Christ.

But, in the NT and church writings, it can be found that if Jews believed in Jesus Christ their sins would be forgiven.

The writer called Paul got his information from MAN, from the authors of the Jesus stories.

Paul's lies knot him up. Paul is a fraud.
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3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
This excerpt of Corinthians is usually connected to Hosea 6:2 :
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"He will revive us after two days;
He will raise us up on the third day,
That we may live before Him
Now, you do what you want with these two chunks. Perhaps the linkage is far-fetched...

One could say that the writer of Hosea did not live around 30 CE, and that "he will raise us" does not concern the contemporaries of "Paul".
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3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
This excerpt of Corinthians is usually connected to Hosea 6:2 :
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"He will revive us after two days;
He will raise us up on the third day,
That we may live before Him
Now, you do what you want with these two chunks. Perhaps the linkage is far-fetched...

One could say that the writer of Hosea did not live around 30 CE, and that "he will raise us" does not concern the contemporaries of "Paul".
How does "US" mean Jesus Christ. There is no Jesus Christ in Hosea. There is no crucifixion in Hosea. There is absolutely nothing about him, only "us".

And if "us" was revived on the second day, then "us" was not Jesus.

The letter writer, the one whose lies knot, claimed Jesus Christ rose on the third day according to the scripture.

There is just no Jesus Christ in the Jewish Scriptures.
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Corinthians 15.3-4


This excerpt of Corinthians is usually connected to Hosea 6:2 :


Now, you do what you want with these two chunks. Perhaps the linkage is far-fetched...

One could say that the writer of Hosea did not live around 30 CE, and that "he will raise us" does not concern the contemporaries of "Paul".
How does "US" mean Jesus Christ. There is no Jesus Christ in Hosea. There is no crucifixion in Hosea. There is absolutely nothing about him, only "us".

And if "us" was revived on the second day, then "us" was not Jesus.

The letter writer, the one whose lies knot, claimed Jesus Christ rose on the third day according to the scripture.

There is just no Jesus Christ in the Jewish Scriptures.
Unless "us" means those who are "dead" in Christ, those that are being "born again". - I think Paul describes it in this fashion in places.
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How does "US" mean Jesus Christ. There is no Jesus Christ in Hosea. There is no crucifixion in Hosea. There is absolutely nothing about him, only "us".

And if "us" was revived on the second day, then "us" was not Jesus.

The letter writer, the one whose lies knot, claimed Jesus Christ rose on the third day according to the scripture.

There is just no Jesus Christ in the Jewish Scriptures.
Unless "us" means those who are "dead" in Christ, those that are being "born again". - I think Paul describes it in this fashion in places.
There is no Jesus Christ in Hosea. Just read Hosea.

Can you show where in the Jewish Scriptures it is written that Jesus Christ will be born, will die, will rise on the third and ascend to heaven?

Corinthians 15.3-4

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3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
These passages are not revelations, they are from the authors of the Jesus stories.

They are not from Jewish Scripture, from the Jesus stories.

Paul is a fraud. And they have a dead body from the wrong century.
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Unless "us" means those who are "dead" in Christ, those that are being "born again". - I think Paul describes it in this fashion in places.
There is no Jesus Christ in Hosea. Just read Hosea.

Can you show where in the Jewish Scriptures it is written that Jesus Christ will be born, will die, will rise on the third and ascend to heaven?

Corinthians 15.3-4

1 Cor.15.3-4
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3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
These passages are not revelations, they are from the authors of the Jesus stories.

They are not from Jewish Scripture, from the Jesus stories.

Paul is a fraud. And they have a dead body from the wrong century.
That is the problem with the bible - it is so cryptic. Christians just sya God needed to use cryptic language so that only the wise could see it but to me that is utter crap and garbage to feed to the hardworking masses.
I remember reading one of the so-called catholic "Fathers" who said something about the more complicated the explanations of stuff the better because it went right over the heads of the peasants and sort of made it more awesome
The old church "Fathers" were all crap in my opinion - fat slobs sitting in monasteries drinking wine etc.
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This is the writer called Paul in his so-called letters.

Galatians 1.20
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Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.
Galatians1.11-12

Corinthians 15.3-4

Well, I have searched the scriptures and the writer called Paul was a fraud.

Paul's lies knot.

The name Jesus Christ was from man not from revelation. The name of Jesus Christ of the NT is NOT in Jewish Scriptures. The writer with the name Paul got the name Jesus Christ from NT scriptures, from man, from the Jesus Christ stories.

The death and resurrection of Jesus Christ was NOT from revelation. The death and resurrection of Jesus Christ cannot be found anywhere in Jewish Scriptures.

The death and resurrection of Jesus can be found in NT scriptures, written by man.

The chronology of the resurrection of Jesus Christ is not in Jewish Scriptures, nowhere can it be found that a creature called Jesus Christ would be raised from the dead on the third day in the Jewish Scriptures.

The resurrection of Jesus Christ on the third day can be found in the NT and church writings.

The writer called Paul did not get his revelations from Jesus Christ but from MAN, from the authors of the Jesus stories.

Galatians3:22 -
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]
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Again, there is no mention of the name Jesus Christ with the power to forgive sin in the Jewish Scriptures. Nowhere at all can it be found that Jews should believe in a character called Jesus Christ.

But, in the NT and church writings, it can be found that if Jews believed in Jesus Christ their sins would be forgiven.

The writer called Paul got his information from MAN, from the authors of the Jesus stories.

Paul's lies knot him up. Paul is a fraud.
hey if you really believe that then try it out on Tweb's apologetic forum
Good luck if you do - they chew up stuff like that and spit it out with venom. You will get sliced and diced and spewed out - but hey it will be fun to watch.
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This is the writer called Paul in his so-called letters.

Galatians 1.20

Galatians1.11-12

Corinthians 15.3-4

Well, I have searched the scriptures and the writer called Paul was a fraud.

Paul's lies knot.

The name Jesus Christ was from man not from revelation. The name of Jesus Christ of the NT is NOT in Jewish Scriptures. The writer with the name Paul got the name Jesus Christ from NT scriptures, from man, from the Jesus Christ stories.

The death and resurrection of Jesus Christ was NOT from revelation. The death and resurrection of Jesus Christ cannot be found anywhere in Jewish Scriptures.

The death and resurrection of Jesus can be found in NT scriptures, written by man.

The chronology of the resurrection of Jesus Christ is not in Jewish Scriptures, nowhere can it be found that a creature called Jesus Christ would be raised from the dead on the third day in the Jewish Scriptures.

The resurrection of Jesus Christ on the third day can be found in the NT and church writings.

The writer called Paul did not get his revelations from Jesus Christ but from MAN, from the authors of the Jesus stories.

Galatians3:22 -

Again, there is no mention of the name Jesus Christ with the power to forgive sin in the Jewish Scriptures. Nowhere at all can it be found that Jews should believe in a character called Jesus Christ.

But, in the NT and church writings, it can be found that if Jews believed in Jesus Christ their sins would be forgiven.

The writer called Paul got his information from MAN, from the authors of the Jesus stories.

Paul's lies knot him up. Paul is a fraud.
hey if you really believe that then try it out on Tweb's apologetic forum
Good luck if you do - they chew up stuff like that and spit it out with venom. You will get sliced and diced and spewed out - but hey it will be fun to watch.

You mean you got chewed.

The statement that Paul is a fraud cannot be contradicted by evidence, perhaps by speculation, or imagination.
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This is the writer called Paul in his so-called letters.

Galatians 1.20
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Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.
Galatians1.11-12

Corinthians 15.3-4

Well, I have searched the scriptures and the writer called Paul was a fraud.

Paul's lies knot.

The name Jesus Christ was from man not from revelation. The name of Jesus Christ of the NT is NOT in Jewish Scriptures. The writer with the name Paul got the name Jesus Christ from NT scriptures, from man, from the Jesus Christ stories.

The death and resurrection of Jesus Christ was NOT from revelation. The death and resurrection of Jesus Christ cannot be found anywhere in Jewish Scriptures.

The death and resurrection of Jesus can be found in NT scriptures, written by man.

The chronology of the resurrection of Jesus Christ is not in Jewish Scriptures, nowhere can it be found that a creature called Jesus Christ would be raised from the dead on the third day in the Jewish Scriptures.

The resurrection of Jesus Christ on the third day can be found in the NT and church writings.

The writer called Paul did not get his revelations from Jesus Christ but from MAN, from the authors of the Jesus stories.

Galatians3:22 -
Quote:
]
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Again, there is no mention of the name Jesus Christ with the power to forgive sin in the Jewish Scriptures. Nowhere at all can it be found that Jews should believe in a character called Jesus Christ.

But, in the NT and church writings, it can be found that if Jews believed in Jesus Christ their sins would be forgiven.

The writer called Paul got his information from MAN, from the authors of the Jesus stories.

Paul's lies knot him up. Paul is a fraud.

Paul believed what he wrote. He shared the common Jewish belief that there would be a Messiah, and interpreted the Old Testament in terms of that belief. He then went one step further and identified Jesus of Nazereth with the Messiah.

You may think he was mistaken, but that doesn't make him a fraud.
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Paul believed what he wrote.
No, the letter writer called Paul wanted his readers to believe what was written in the letter.

The writer wrote that his gospel was not from man, nor of man, but by revelation.

How could that be? Where did he get the idea that Jesus Christ did live and could reveal things to him.

The words "Jesus Christ" are not in the Jewish Scriptures.

The writer placed himself after there were already apostles before him, he placed himself as a persecutor of Jesus believers. The writer got his information from the authors of the Jesus stories.

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He shared the common Jewish belief that there would be a Messiah, and interpreted the Old Testament in terms of that belief. He then went one step further and identified Jesus of Nazereth with the Messiah.

You may think he was mistaken, but that doesn't make him a fraud.
But, the Messiah is already in the book called Daniel. The Jewish Messiah, based on Daniel, is no way like Jesus Christ.

There is no other Messiah in the Jewish scriptures. Paul's Jesus Christ is a fraud, too.

Nowhere in Daniel was it written that the Messiah would rise the third day. Nowhere in Daniel was it written that the Messiah would forgive sin, or have the gifts of the Holy Ghost. See Daniel 9 for the Jewish Messiah.

Where did the letter writer get his Holy Ghost, tongue-talking gifts from?

The Holy Ghost tongue-talking gifts are nowhere in the Jewish Scriptures, they are found in Acts of the Apostles and the late addition to the gospel of Mark.

The writer called Paul got his revelations from MAN, they can be found in the writings of the authors of the gospel stories.

Paul's lies knot him up.
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