QRUEL

what proof do you have that these people have "an axe to grind" or "agendas to promote"...do you take this stance just because they assert a different viewpoint than you ?

what makes you call them "so called" scholars...

again is this another way of denigrating people that you don't agree with ?

Mythra

The Jesus Seminar "so called scholars" did come up with some silly ideas based on their slanted views.

They came to the conclusion that there probably was a man named Jesus who said a small percentage of the things attributed to him in the gospels.

Fat chance, that.

Kooks.

:Cheeky:

Malachi151

BTW, here is what I have come up with:

6th century BCE - Jews ruled by Babylonians
4th century BCE - Jews ruled by Greeks

165 BCE - Judas Maccabees defeats Greek Army
140 BCE - Hasmonean Kingdom established by Maccabees family
44 BCE - Death of Julius Caesar – Rome moves towards military dictatorship
37 BCE - Herod declared King of the Jews by Roman authority, ending Hasmonean rule
20 BCE - 40 - Jewish theologian Philo integrates Greek philosophy and Jewish theology
4 BCE- 29/36 - Supposed lifetime of Jesus
26-36 - Pontius Pilate governor over Judea
36 - John the Baptist killed by Herod according to Josephus
48-64 - Letters of Paul written – First mention of “Jesus Christ”
63 - Jewish revolt against Roman authority in Judea
67-70 - Judea destroyed by Roman army
66-80 - Gospel of Mark written
80-130 - Gospels of Matthew and Luke written
94 - Josephus writes Jewish Antiquities
109 - Tacitus write Annals, possibly refers to Christians being persecuted in Rome
112 - Pliny the Younger writes letter to Trajan about Christians
132-135 - Bar Kokhba's Revolt – Bar Kokhba named The Messiah by Jews
100 -140 - Gospel of John written
313 - Edict of Milan - Constantine allowed freedom of all religions
325 - Council of Nicaea - summoned by Constantine to create official Christian doctrine
330 - Creation of “Constantine Bible” - Unified “Old” and “New” scriptures
362 - Emperor Julian “the Apostate” declares Christianity a religion of wicked fiction
380? - Theodosius declares Catholicism the official state religion of Rome
394 - Battle of the Frigidus, Theodosius defeats remaining pagan armies in the Empire

LanternBearer

Burton Mack. Then we can work our way through those "laughable scholarly" types you dismiss from the Jesus Project.

Perhaps we could exchange bibliographies.

If one had nothing else to go on but the record of the instruction set provided by that scruffy iconoclast of a wandering rabbi, would that be enough to establish a moral workable society in the Heaven that is spread out before you?

In truth, that may be all that is available that has not been edited totally away to fit the clandestine henotheism that became Roman Christianity and the superstitious construct for which you are so enthusiastic.

It really makes no difference who wrote what when after the cross dropped in the hole in the rock that had received it so many times before and after. If one is unable to commit to the Victims instruction set of the three previous years, why bother with the rest.

The construct that was the work of Constantine, Mother Helena and subject axe grinders is the camel that you choose to swallow rather than the bit of Bread offered by the Teacher.

Please, do read my profile!

You are blessed in your way.

Lantern Bearer
Please do be attentive, be intelligent, be reasonable, be responsible!

mountainman

Your reference for 362 is incorrect. Julian does not
"declare Christianity a religion of wicked fiction", but
sets out ...:

"The reasons by which he was convinced
that the fabrication of the Galilaeans
is a fiction of men composed by wickedness."

Pete Brown
Julian_Against_the_Galilaeans

LanternBearer

I am new to this board but I have a deep background in the history and context of the cheeky theist dominionist and their superstitious ways.

I have placed some bait in this thread but as yet the principal <=>< has yet to tug the line.

Do check my profile.

Lantern Bearer