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Old 03-01-2008, 11:01 AM   #41
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Look, even Buddha predicted jesus would come in the future!

...'I am not the first Buddha Who came upon this earth, nor shall I be the last. In due time another Buddha will arise in the world, a Holy One, a supremely enlightened One, endowed with wisdom in conduct, auspicious knowing the universe, an incomparable leader of men, a Master of angels and mortals. He will reveal to you the same eternal truths which I have taught you. He will preach to you His religion, glorious in its origin, glorious at the climax and glorious at the goal, in spirit and in the letter. He will proclaim a religious life, wholly perfect and pure, such as I now proclaim.' His disciples will number many thousands, while Mine number many hundreds.'
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.....do have any damn clue how vastly Buddhism differs from Christianity???

--they are so disimilar as to be from entirely different planets NB
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:23 AM   #42
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OK so SOMEONE had to write the "story" of Jesus, right?

Who? Why make it up? Why did the church just "believe" it with no evidence supporting it?

2 Corinthians 11:4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

Why did the church just believe all these false stories about Jesus with no evidence supporting them?
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OK so SOMEONE had to write the "story" of Jesus, right?

Who? Why make it up? Why did the church just "believe" it with no evidence supporting it?
An easy and obvious answer (though by no means the only possible answer) is that the story grew to fill a vacant social need. Jesus preached (broadly) to the disaffected. People will latch onto a message that resonates with them whether it's true or not.

People join the Church of Scientology because the promises of the Church of Scientology resonate with the problems they see in their own lives.

People join Christian churches today not because they reason their way into them, but because their family belongs, or their friends, or the object of their affection - social needs are being fulfilled.

One of the things you're doing here, Half-Life, is that you're (I think unintentionally) retrojecting your 21st perspective backwards -
you're assuming that people in 1st century Palestine and the surrounding areas had the same understanding of things that we do today. They didn't. You're looking at Buddhist statements with a Christian perspective and deciding they are about Christ. They aren't. You're engaging in a bit of eisegesis here - imposing your own interpretations on things.

You might find it useful to step back and ask yourself "If I were going to make up a religion that I wanted people to believe in, how would I do it?"

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Yeah... at the OP, the question that interests me more due to is greater historical proximity is how the hell anybody can believe Scientology.

But the thing is, people do. And people think that it's impossible for the early Christians to have believed in something false?

We just started a religion in the last fifty years that behaves like a scam and was founded by a man who made his living selling science fiction!
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http://bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/buddha.htm

LOL if you can't see that means jesus, you're blind.

Who's "disciples" number many thousands?


Kim Jong-il?
L.Ron Hubbard?

One could go on and on.

And do you really think there aren't "many thousands" of Buddhists?

Nope, once again you are wrong.

Read the prophecy again. buddha said the new teacher's disciples would number "many thousands" while mine will number "many hundreds."

If you read about these religions, you will find that followers of Bahá'u'lláh are 200 million people. Buddhism has 350 million people at the least.

LOL! Buddha himself was wrong!

I have just PROVEN buddhism wrong.
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Yeah... at the OP, the question that interests me more due to is greater historical proximity is how the hell anybody can believe Scientology.

But the thing is, people do. And people think that it's impossible for the early Christians to have believed in something false?

We just started a religion in the last fifty years that behaves like a scam and was founded by a man who made his living selling science fiction!

Doesn't matter. L. Ron hubbard never claimed a certain man was killed under United States government, rose again from the dead, and leaves no corpse behind to find.

Just because people believe Hubbard shows even more how misguided they can be.

But no worries, the Bible predicted people will start following man made religions instead of the one from God.

This only futher PROVES God's word.
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Kim Jong-il?
L.Ron Hubbard?

One could go on and on.

And do you really think there aren't "many thousands" of Buddhists?

Nope, once again you are wrong.

Read the prophecy again. buddha said the new teacher's disciples would number "many thousands" while mine will number "many hundreds."

If you read about these religions, you will find that followers of Bahá'u'lláh are 200 million people. Buddhism has 350 million people at the least.

LOL! Buddha himself was wrong!

I have just PROVEN buddhism wrong.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong. Aren't millions considered "many thousands"?
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We just started a religion in the last fifty years that behaves like a scam and was founded by a man who made his living selling science fiction!

Doesn't matter. L. Ron hubbard never claimed a certain man was killed under United States government, rose again from the dead, and leaves no corpse behind to find.
Moving the goal post again, huh?
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Yeah... at the OP, the question that interests me more due to is greater historical proximity is how the hell anybody can believe Scientology.

But the thing is, people do. And people think that it's impossible for the early Christians to have believed in something false?

We just started a religion in the last fifty years that behaves like a scam and was founded by a man who made his living selling science fiction!
Interestingly, Scientology has a number of very strong similarities between (at least some flavors of) Christianity. Hubbard, whether he did it deliberately or just had a natural talent for it, understood how to manipulate people.

The real characteristics of early Christianity are, as far as I know, rather speculative. The information we have available to us just doesn't go back to the very start of it all. That's one of the reasons I find it interesting when certain conservative Christian groups claim to be modeled on the first Christians. (I know others here will quite competently elaborate on this if need be.)

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Doesn't matter. L. Ron hubbard never claimed a certain man was killed under United States government, rose again from the dead, and leaves no corpse behind to find.
No, honestly, Hubbard's claims were even more bizarre. IIRC, he essentially claims that he himself is God at OTVIII...

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Just because people believe Hubbard shows even more how misguided they can be.
There's a certain irony to this statement that I probably don't need to point out.

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But no worries, the Bible predicted people will start following man made religions instead of the one from God.

This only futher PROVES God's word.
The Bible also predicted that Jesus would return within the lifetime of the people he was speaking to...

Before you open the Pandora's box of prophecy, you would be well-served to look through some of the older threads on the matter.

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