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Old 07-02-2006, 07:50 PM   #1
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Default The Catholic Fascist speaks.

Gunter had asked me:

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I notice that you call yourself a Catholic Fascist. Would you care to elaborate?
That said, I shall elaborate. I am a Catholic, religiously speaking. I am a Fascist, governmentally speaking. Righteo! Thread closed!


Just joking. :Cheeky:

In all seriousness, though.

I am a Fascist. What is a Fascist?

Well, let's look at it governmentally. How will we look at it governmentally speaking? Let's look at what it is not.

It isn't Democracy or a Republic. It isn't a government by the people, of the people, for the people. In a Democracy, the government is based on the will of what the people want. As a consequence, two things happen.

A) Legislation is based on what people want rather than what is best.
B) Legislation takes forever.

Group A: "We want a bridge built!"
Group B: "We don't!"

6 months later, they are still debating.

Fascism is a military dictatorship based on ideaology. The person in charge (The leader of the Fascist Party) is the one who has absolute control over the military, and therefore absolute control over his nation. As a consequence, two things happen.

A) Legislation is based on what furthers the ideaology, and therefore holds a greater potential at bringing about what is best.
B) Legislation is short and sweet.

Der Fuehrer: "Let's build a bridge."
Guy A: "I live there."
Der Fuehrer: "I'll relocate you to a home of equal value."
Guy A:" No!"
Der Fuehrer: "You will move or else."
Gay A: "Screw you!"
Der Fuehrer commands a soldier to kill Guy A and place his head on a pike. (In my book, Guy A's denial is treason.)

6 months later, cars are passing back and forth on that bridge, and by golly everyone loves it!

Militarily?

It isn't Democracy. In a Democracy, the president must ask permission to do his or that of congress to do that or this. As a result:

A)It takes time to do what the presidents wants to do.
B)Everyone knows what the president wants to do.
C)He might not be able to do what he wants to do.

President: "People of America, I desire to go to war with Iran because of A, B, C, and D."
People: "Booooo!"
Congress: "No!"

Meanwhile, Iran is laughing their butts off while they build up their military, while the President's war goes unwaged.

In Fascism, Der Fuehrer controls the Military, and that's it. He does what he wants.

Der Fuehrer (In secret, to a General): "Invade Iran."

A couple days later, tanks and planes and infantry (both foot and mechanized) are smashing through the more or less unsuspecting Iranian countryside.

Der Fuehrer, after the Iranian gold is added to the Fascist State's treasury: "Seig Heil! (Hail Victory!)"

Socially:

Rather than the social standard being set by the People (As in a Democracy), it is set by traditional social standards as enforced by Il Duce. (Preferably, Catholicism)

Economically:

Generally speaking, Fascism is often coupled with Corporatism.

What is Corporatism? It is the merging of Business and State. IE, Government and Corporation become one. Ultimately, this creates a planned right wing economy (as compared to the planned left wing economy of Communism.)

What does that mean for citizens? Ultimately, it means the opposite of Communism.

Communism: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Corporatism: You take out what you put in, and get what you deserve.


More or less, that is my political ideaology. Thank you for reading.

Long live death! Hail Victory! :wave:
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Doesn't sound very appealing, to me.
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Doesn't sound very appealing, to me.
Last I heard, the Italians and the Germans weren't complaining until they started losing WWII.
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Yes, and look at the wonders that Fascism did for Germany, Italy and Spain *Fake Cough*World War 2*,*Fake Cough*Holocaust*
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Yeah, the whole non-emphasis on freedom isn't what I want. Sorry.
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Last I heard, the Italians and the Germans weren't complaining until they started losing WWII.
Jewish Germans weren't Germans?
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Jewish Germans weren't Germans?
They weren't complaining either. They were too busy being shoveled into ovens.
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Yeah, the whole non-emphasis on freedom isn't what I want. Sorry.
Freedom? There is an intrinsic difference between Freedom and Liscence. Do you really want freedom? Or do you want liscence?

I define Freedom as the ability to tend towards what is best. Insofar as I am concerned, Fascism and Catholicism lead towards what is best.

Liscence is the ability to do what one wants, regardless of whether or not it is best.
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Last I heard, the Italians and the Germans weren't complaining until they started losing WWII.
Except for the resistance you mean. Such a state will never be at peace, there will always be those that are willing to take up arms for freedom, myself included.
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They weren't complaining either. They were too busy being shoveled into ovens.
If that was meant as a joke, it wasn't funny. They complained all the way.

So, a fascist and a catholic - two groups that did their best to eliminate Jews from Europe. That is quite a heritage for you to proclaim.
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