gagster

Actually, he's right. Take this example:

Matthew 27:5 (NIV)
So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18 (NIV)
(With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out.

Note how, in the New International Version, Judas died by hanging himself in one version of the story and from a fall in another version.

Now, let's look at the King James Version:

Matthew 27:5 (KJV)
And he [Judas] cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18 (KJV)
Now this man [Judas] purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

See how the KJV clears it all up?


Greg

gagster

Actually, he's right. Take this example:

Matthew 27:5 (KJV)
And he [Judas] cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18 (KJV)
Now this man [Judas] purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

Note how, in the King James Version, Judas died by hanging himself in one version of the story and from a fall in another version.

Now, let's look at the New International Version:

Matthew 27:5 (NIV)
So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

Acts 1:18 (NIV)
(With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out.

See how this is all cleared up just by using a modern english translation?


Greg

KnightWhoSaysNi

The formal debate is now complete. Bible John and notapadawan may now post here if they wish to.

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Bible John

I could not agree more. Nothing wrong with the NIV and its a shame my opponent continues to fail to see its value. These KJVO types really are hard to understand. My opponent will claim he is not KJVO, but he is KJVO as defined by James White in his book.


I encourage all Fundamentalist Christians to read The King James Version Only Controversy (or via: amazon.co.uk)

Bible John

I hope my opponent joins the discussion but I may be hoping too much.

He regularly posts on a hateful board where its perfectly okay with moderation to insult people that you disagree with and moderation does next to nothing.

Its also a board where some have been known to take photos of their hair and create a thread just to chat about their hair, and moderation did next to nothing .

On iidb.org there are rules and conduct standards. Perhaps this bothers my opponent and many Christians, and why they do not come over here. Many do not want accountability.

I am so sad that many of my brethren have been such an embarsement to the name of Christ.


John

gagster

Thank you BJ. I'm glad to see that you fully support and agree with the point I was making.


Greg

Bible John

Well I certainly do not agree with your views, but I do agree with your point about the modern translations.

notapadawan

John... I have stated my problems with the NIV. It is faulty due to it's inherent paraphrasing, which I then recommended you read the works of Piper, who I linked to, and also Robert Martin. Even James White recommends people read Robert Martin's book. Another reason to abandon the NIV is due to the translational bias.

I don't advocate the usage of the KJV as binding on non English speaking people. I advocate they use a translation in their tongue that has been translated from the Traditional Text.


I fully recommend this book, Carson's Book, David Otis Fuller's Book, Robert Martin's book, Philip Mauro's book, and several others.

notapadawan

John... Do you realize what you were agreeing with? I highly doubt it.

What Greg was saying was that even the modern versions can't agree with how Judas died. That they can use it along with the KJV to discredit Christianity. Then again reading comprehension is your friend...

notapadawan

There you go again John... You are assuming when the occasion doesn't call for it.

I post on several boards. I also am a moderator on another couple of boards. What does this have to do with posting here?

Get your facts straight... Oh wait... It's easier to stand against somethign without investigating the actual facts.

Why would that bother me? I have no problem with accountability. This site has a good balance, just as several Christian sites such as Sharper Iron.

How so?