King Rat

If a multimillionaire wanted to fund my pet project, I'd call a rock a boat too.

Joe Meert

A close examination of the picture shows that this relates to the story of Moby Dick.



for a detailed view of the area of interest click the link below

http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/jmeert/whale1.jpe

Cheers

Joe Meert

unregistered_user_1

Well, now I know what got Joe kicked off of TWEB!

Someone over there was probably ticked off that you published their picture wirthout permission.

Seriously though, Ouch! I really did not need to see that...

Heurismus

So the 'minnow' turned into Leviathan after all. Although Leviathan was actually a 'croc'. But yes, I can see the cetacean outline. But I still like the MV Snark. 'The Hunting of...' But that aquatic fart...!!!

budgie

Fixed that. Glad to be of help.

-jim

TJG

Regarding the so-called anchor stones, see http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/bogus.html for a rational discussion of where they came from as well as the iron "artifacts" found near Kazan.

Anchors away,
Tom

As to what they really are, here's a hint: cemetery.

nermal

Christ's sake man! What else could they be but anchor stones? They look just like the ones on the boat, dude! Didn't you read the site? You sayin' pitchures lie? They gots holes in em too.

Anyone who knows anything about seafaring would know that a cargo hold full of T-rex's, brontosaurii, elephants, rhinos, diplodocii, etc. wouldn't be heavy enough to give the boat stability, so you'd have to hang some big rocks from it--like that Russell Crow character did in that movie. Remember he had that guy string a log out on a long rope? What'd you think he was doing? Fishing for termites?

What does it take to convince you freaks, anyway?

Ed

Heurismus

Well done that man!!! If you miss the liberty boat don't worry you deserve another night or two ashore.

Yep, they forgot to include them on the ineventory on purpose, barnacles are bad enough thankyou very much Bosun!!! Admiral Jummblywad, First Sea Lord of the Pea Green.

TJG

More info on the "anchor stones". From http://noahsarksearch.com/ronwyatt.htm

One of the more interesting lines of evidence that Wyatt has put forth for the formation being the Ark is his alleged discovery of giant anchor stones that Noah used to steer the ship and keep it facing the wind (see photo #5). Fasold has researched this and contributed quite a bit to this argument as well as Dr. William Shea.

Ten of these stones have been found in the same general vicinity near the village of Kazan about 14 miles from the site of the "ship". Since some of these megaliths have 8 crosses carved on them it is assumed this is a reference to Noah and his family. The stones all have a hole carved on one end in which Noah supposedly secured them with ropes.

We have several reasons for disagreement with the idea that these were anchor or drogue stones used on the Ark:

a. Our impression from Scripture is that Noah had no kind of mechanism to steer the ship; he could not even close the door himself. When he and his family were inside the Ark they were at the total mercy of God, Who was providing for their safety from the flood waters.

I feel fairly certain that the design of the ship was such that it was kept from going around in endless circles as result of the wind and currents.

When I asked Wyatt why the anchor stones were found so far away from the site, his reply was that one day when Noah was looking out the window he discovered that the Ark was heading in the direction of dry land so he cut the anchor stones. But this means Noah had something to do with the destiny and direction of the Ark!

b. We feel there is a far better explanation for these giant stones. After studying these stones, it seemed obvious that the crosses carved on them were from the previous Armenian inhabitants. So, we decided to consult with Dr. Abraham Terian, of Andrews University. Dr. Terian is recognized as an authority on classical Armenian studies.

He was readily interested in this project and offered that these stones are not unique to that specific location. The crosses carved on the stones are known as Armenian "khatchkars" and they were probably carved between 301 A.D. and 406 A.D.

These dates are significant in that the former is the date the Armenian nation was converted to Christianity. The later date is when the Armenian language was first put down in written form.

Dr. Terian is fairly certain that these stones were originally pre-christian Armenian "stelae" containing pagan inscriptions. Armenian historians note that immediately after their conversion, in there zeal for Christ, they removed all remnants of paganism from such "stelae" and replaced them with crosses.

According to those who have examined these "stelae" closely there is evidence of an earlier defacement. Dr. Terian believes that this was done before 406 because after that they probably would have written something in their new alphabet.

The holes in these "stelae" was put there by the pre- christian Armenians according to Terian, and had occultic significance, possibly as the "eye of the dragon".

c. The theory that these are Armenian "stelae" is also supported by the fact that the stones are located in an ancient Armenian graveyard.

d. If these were "drogue" stones as Wyatt says, the holes were carved too near the edge of the rock and the ropes would have easily become broken off. There is also no sign of wear which one would expect if ropes had been tied through them to drag in the water for one year.

e. It has been stated that these stones are not indigenous to the area. In fact, Wyatt in one news report, said they were cut out of precambrian rock. This is false. To our knowledge these are huge chunks of basalt which are found in abundance in the area.

f. The number of crosses on these rocks number anywhere from 3 to 20. The number eight has been vastly overplayed.

For some nice high-res photos of the stones with Ararat in the background, see http://arcimaging.org/GeisslerRex/GeisslerRex1.html and go to the "K" section.

Tom

Heurismus

TJG you are a star; I have laughed nearly all the way down at the absurdities that you have chosen to reproduce. I think you have done well. Just one that made me chuckle was this:
Quote; "When I asked Wyatt why the anchor stones were found so far away from the site, his reply was that one day when Noah was looking out the window he discovered that the Ark was heading in the direction of dry land so he cut the anchor stones. But this means Noah had something to do with the destiny and direction of the Ark! down." Unquote.

The Mooncheesebelievers just get whackier and whackier by the second.

However, and it might have been mentioned before, not knowing the customs of pre Christians in the area, I thought a bit about these holes. It seems, and here however ludicrous it may turn out, that these holes would facilitate easier movement. The surrounding area doesn't seem conducive to more traditional methods as seen elsewhere and manpower I think would have been on the low side. Therefore animal power seems the more likely, and what better way to drag such heavy stones into position than boring holes in them. Let the animal take the strain! The Carvings are obviously later, after all they aren't Ankh shaped are they. But Maltese Crosses on some!!? (Armenian "khatchkars" 301 A.D. and 406 A.D.) Maybe Christianity is actually older than we presume, in fact it possibly isn't Christianity at all, but some other cultic form subsumed and suffused with the new religion. 'Here there be Dragons'! Indeed!!! Well noah would have had to have a pair of those too now wouldn't he!
And the link to 'ArcImaging Turkey & Seven Churches of Revelation Photo Album' is great, Thanks. Just having some fun; really how can we be serious about this?

Extract from first link: "We have also received a report of a very mysterious archaeological discovery on the north side of Mt. Ararat. Details are very scanty. It is not supposed to be the Ark, but is in some way connected to Noah. The Turkish government is supposed to be involved. We are trying to confirm details and will report them here if they have any substances."