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Old 12-27-2004, 09:09 AM   #1
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Default Jesus, God, and Relative Time

Christians often claim that their god is outside of time, and that one day to him may be a thousand years (or whatever amount of time they need to fit their notion at the moment) for us.

My question is this: Jesus supposedly said he would rise again in 3 days after he was tacked up for heresy. So he thought he would recover from death and crawl out of his grave about another 1,000 years from now, right?

Also, if he was born, that would be the "first coming", and then if he did rise from the dead, it would be the "second coming". Aren't the True Believers really waiting and hoping for an unpromised third coming?
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Christians often claim that their god is outside of time, and that one day to him may be a thousand years (or whatever amount of time they need to fit their notion at the moment) for us.

My question is this: Jesus supposedly said he would rise again in 3 days after he was tacked up for heresy. So he thought he would recover from death and crawl out of his grave about another 1,000 years from now, right?

Also, if he was born, that would be the "first coming", and then if he did rise from the dead, it would be the "second coming". Aren't the True Believers really waiting and hoping for an unpromised third coming?
You might be right, but Jesus doesn't need to come back, his message is alive and well. Sometimes a person is the message, sometimes the message is the messiah.
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And some people will believe anything that helps them think they have supernatural connections of some sort.
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And some people will believe anything that helps them think they have supernatural connections of some sort.
and do those who have no connection beyond themselves make it plain with their words. ?
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It does prove, however, that God is logically inconsistent.
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and do those who have no connection beyond themselves make it plain with their words. ?
Only in that there may be a cryptic meaning which at times may be seen by an observer, and therein lies a connection beyond each.

Hey, I can do it too!
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You might be right, but Jesus doesn't need to come back, his message is alive and well. Sometimes a person is the message, sometimes the message is the messiah.
YHWH will send you to hell for contradicting what Jesus said!
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