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Old 02-17-2005, 04:46 PM   #1
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Default Slaves and Early Christians; is it untrue that many of the early Christians were slav

Reading the book Barabbas by Paar Lask...don't recall, don't feel up to looking it up....the author seems to repeat the idea that many of the early Christians were slaves. However, listening to an audio lecture, and reading about Marx, I am told that most of the early Christians were middle class.

So, was Christianity not very popular with the slaves?
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Reading the book Barabbas by Paar Lask...don't recall, don't feel up to looking it up....the author seems to repeat the idea that many of the early Christians were slaves. However, listening to an audio lecture, and reading about Marx, I am told that most of the early Christians were middle class.

So, was Christianity not very popular with the slaves?
Slaves covered a wide range of economic classes in modern terms.

Christianity probably had little impact on slaves working in gangs on the great rural plantations.

However skilled slaves in what we would call middle management, who suffered 'status inconsistency' as skilled professionals doing an importanr job, but still looked down upon as slaves, probably found Christianity much more attractive.

Christianity may have been particularly popular among young upwardly mobile slaves in the Imperial household on a fast track to manumission and careers as Imperial freedmen and freedwomen.

(So Marx is probably right that most early Christians were not unduly materially deprived but being a slave did not necessarily mean material deprivation)

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Some slaves, to be sure but probably not the smart ones. Here is what Celsus had to say and he was an eyewitness to the early spreading of christianity:

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44 The following are the rules laid down by them. Let no one come to us who has been instructed, or who is wise or prudent (for such qualifications are deemed evil by us); but if there be any ignorant, or unintelligent, or uninstructed, or foolish persons, let them come with confidence. By which words, acknowledging that such individuals are worthy of their God, they manifestly show that they desire and are able to gain over only the silly, and the mean, and the stupid, with women and children.

50 Nay, we see, indeed, that even those individuals, who in the market-places perform the most disgraceful tricks, and who gather crowds around them, would never approach an assembly of wise men, nor dare to exhibit their arts among them; but wherever they see young men, and a mob of slaves, and a gathering of unintelligent persons, thither they thrust themselves in, and show themselves off.

55 We see, indeed, in private houses workers in wool and leather, and fullers, and persons of the most uninstructed and rustic character, not venturing to utter a word in the presence of their elders and wiser masters; but when they get hold of the children privately, and certain women as ignorant as themselves, they pour forth wonderful statements, to the effect that they ought not to give heed to their father and to their teachers, but should obey them; that the former are foolish and stupid, and neither know nor can perform anything that is really good, being preoccupied with empty trifles; that they alone know how men ought to live, and that, if the children obey them, they will both be happy themselves, and will make their home happy also. And while thus speaking, if they see one of the instructors of youth approaching, or one of the more intelligent class, or even the father himself, the more timid among them become afraid, while the more forward incite the children to throw off the yoke, whispering that in the presence of father and teachers they neither will nor can explain to them any good thing, seeing they turn away with aversion from the silliness and stupidity of such persons as being altogether corrupt, and far advanced in wickedness, and such as would inflict punishment upon them; but that if they wish (to avail themselves of their aid,) they must leave their father and their instructors, and go with the women and their playfellows to the women's apartments, or to the leather shop, or to the fuller's shop, that they may attain to perfection;--and by words like these they gain them over.
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