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gdeering · 01-02-2010, 04:39 PM

The headline is overblown, but for those like me who are not up on the round (non-Noadic) ark evidence:

Relic reveals Noah's ark was circular.

One can see similar controversies in children's snowboard shapes currently.

Gregg

Toto · 01-02-2010, 06:30 PM

Intersting.

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Finkel's research throws light on the familiar Mesopotamian story, which became the account in Genesis, in the Old Testament, of Noah and the ark that saved his menagerie from the waters which drowned every other living thing on earth.

In his translation, the god who has decided to spare one just man speaks to Atram-Hasis, a Sumerian king who lived before the flood and who is the Noah figure in earlier versions of the ark story. "Wall, wall! Reed wall, reed wall! Atram-Hasis, pay heed to my advice, that you may live forever! Destroy your house, build a boat; despise possessions And save life! Draw out the boat that you will built with a circular design; Let its length and breadth be the same."

Joan of Bark · 01-04-2010, 08:42 PM

... or the ark may have simply been box-shaped, as with the ark of the covenant.

semiopen · 01-05-2010, 06:21 AM

From the OP link...

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In the Victorian era some became obsessed with the ark story. George Smith – the lowly British museum assistant who, in 1872, deciphered the Flood Tablet which is inscribed with the Assyrian version of the Noah's ark tale – could apparently not contain his excitement at his discovery.

According to the museum's archives: "He jumped up and rushed about the room in a great state of excitement and to the astonishment of those present began to undress himself."

WTF

rhutchin · 01-05-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gdeering

The headline is overblown, but for those like me who are not up on the round (non-Noadic) ark evidence:

Relic reveals Noah's ark was circular.

One can see similar controversies in children's snowboard shapes currently.

Gregg

Genesis 6
14 [God tells Moses] Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.
15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.

So the ark is to be 300 cubits long and 50 cubits wide. If the ark had to be 50 cubits at every point of it's length which seems to be the case, then it would have to be a rectangle shape.

From the description, it was basically a barge and rectangular in shape.

Those Babylonians! Always getting it wrong.

bleubird · 01-05-2010, 06:13 PM

In Joe Campbell's Mask of god,Primitive Mythology there is a pic of a reed island with a lot of animals.
the swamp people of the Tigris delta have been there a long time.
I bet they had floods and major flood stories.

bleu

Johnny Skeptic · 01-05-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rhutchin

From the description, it was basically a barge and rectangular in shape.

Maybe so, but only in global flood mythology. Even many conservative Christians, including some conservative Christian experts, for example geophysicist Glenn Morton, know that a global flood did not occur.

I know, science only matters for inerrantists when it agrees with the Bible.

CarmStephanieE · 01-05-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Skeptic

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhutchin

From the description, it was basically a barge and rectangular in shape.

Maybe so, but only in global flood mythology. Even many conservative Christians, including some conservative Christian experts, for example geophysicist Glenn Morton, know that a global flood did not occur.

I know, science only matters for inerrantists when it agrees with the Bible.

Imagine the stench with all those animals in it for that long.
Bacteria, and all the other problems with this so called event.

yalla · 01-05-2010, 08:28 PM

Some here, like the person who wrote the article and the headline in the newspaper, seem to have missed a very important point.
The person who wrote the news article vaguely hints at it for a few paragraphs but doesn't really make the point until about a third of the way down.

Its not about the ark at all.

Its about the myth that the ark story is based on.
A myth that is, at least, several hundred years older and which the Jewish myth is a direct copy.

rhutchin · 01-06-2010, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Skeptic

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhutchin

From the description, it was basically a barge and rectangular in shape.

Maybe so, but only in global flood mythology. Even many conservative Christians, including some conservative Christian experts, for example geophysicist Glenn Morton, know that a global flood did not occur.

I know, science only matters for inerrantists when it agrees with the Bible.

Nonetheless, from the description of the ark in Genesis, it was basically a barge and rectangular in shape.

How about starting a new thread and tell us how Morton explains this:

Genesis 7
18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

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Joan of Bark Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pua, in northern Thailand Posts: 2,823	... or the ark may have simply been box-shaped, as with the ark of the covenant.

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bleubird Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: alaska Posts: 2,737	In Joe Campbell's Mask of god,Primitive Mythology there is a pic of a reed island with a lot of animals. the swamp people of the Tigris delta have been there a long time. I bet they had floods and major flood stories. bleu

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yalla Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: oz Posts: 1,848	Some here, like the person who wrote the article and the headline in the newspaper, seem to have missed a very important point. The person who wrote the news article vaguely hints at it for a few paragraphs but doesn't really make the point until about a third of the way down. Its not about the ark at all. Its about the myth that the ark story is based on. A myth that is, at least, several hundred years older and which the Jewish myth is a direct copy.

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