Kosh3

Muslims are in fact very sexually advanced peoples.

http://www.newsfilter.org/videos/index.php?id=11008

Don't worry, you can't actually see anything but their outlines. Probably NSFW though. That kind of behaviour is regularly legislated for in Islamic teachings, such as the Koran. These guys can't sell that meat within their village now, they have to go a town over.

RussianM3_dude

Yeah, I was wondering for ages about that. I heard there are hadiths for that kind of thing, something like "you are allowed sex with animals IF... yada, yadda, yadda..."

Anybody have those hadiths?

saeedalyousuf

S1:
I do not know exactly. Since you claim that they did exist then you need to identify the source. Even if some of the rules did exist, it doesn't mean that all of them did exist or that the opposition to such rules or different sets of rules didn't exist.

S2:
I do not remember all of it but it is about measures related to sexual behavior, consumption of blood and circumcision.

Saeed

saeedalyousuf

Islam did protect the Muslims from AIDS and STDs for the past fourteen centuries. Homosexuality is reported by a number of sources for being responsible for the spread of AIDS:


The history and those infected at the early out break:
http://www.avert.org/his81_86.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/...000/4020391.stm

Linking homosexuality with Syphilis and HIV:

http://www.skepticfiles.org/mys5/syphaids.htm

Drug resistant strain found in homosexual:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4260467.stm

Admission of “culpability�?:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/a...RTICLE_ID=35994

The “MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES�? of the practices:
http://www.familyresearchinst.org/FRI_EduPamphlet3.html

The spread of HIV in the US and Europe:
http://www.amazinginfoonhomosexuals.com/hiv_origin.htm

Saeed

RGD

Saeed, you need to spend more time putting together logically coherent posts. Consider:

1. AIDS didn't exist 14 centuries ago.

2. The spread of STDs in general is not solely the actions of homosexuals; heterosexual contact is just as common a carrier mechanism.

3. Therefore Islam doesn't protect Muslims from STDs; intelligent behavior protects Muslims from STDs.

4. None of your links actually support your argument - since no one is questioning that STDs can be spread by homosex.

chapka

...and, of course, you still can't make the connection between Islam preventing AIDS and Islam being the best religion, since as already pointed out the Middle East has HIV infection rates roughly equivalent to western Europe and much higher than east Asia.

In other words, if low HIV transmission rates are a measure of what religion you should join, we should all be Shinto.

French Prometheus

To which I would add that homosexuality is well accepted in Japan (though not in the same form as in the West). So is pre-marital sex as virginity is never regarded as something important (except in the imperial family). Of course, condom machines are found absolutely everywhere.

Weltall

Very true, Japan has a long history of accepting it although it's changed in modern times. Heck, some people credit Kukai (founder of the Shingon school of Buddhism) with importing the practice from China, along with a whole bunch of other great things that one man couldn't possibly have done in a lifetime.
Yeah, you wouldn't believe what you can find in vending machines there. Now that I'm done derailing, you may all return to your regular thread.

premjan

Wonder why Japan has a low HIV rate. Is that because there are many sex substitutes (e.g. hostesses) and more of blow/hand jobs than penetrative sex?

French Prometheus

Condom vending machines are really found everywhere. Actually, the pill was only legalized a few years ago and, before that, condoms were the only contraceptive easily available. All sorts of sexual activities are practised.

In pre-modern Japan, the initiation process among the warrior class (the samurai) and the Buddhist clergy included homosexual relationships. There were also a lot of brothels in Japanese cities that catered to every taste.