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Strike one. I needn't even debate against such a feeble swing.
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Explain whether the tomb was open or not when the women arrived, and how you reconcile the accounts. Did an angel of the lord/earthquake open the tomb while the women were there, or did they find it open? In Matt 28, the women arrive, then there is the earthquake that opens the tomb and scares the guards, and an angel speaks to them. In Mark 16, the tomb is already open, and there are no guards, and only a young man. Quote:
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John's gospel records post-resurrection appearances of Jesus:
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In Mt. 28:9 Jesus tells the women to tell his brothers to go to Galilee. This means that Jesus's earthly brothers would only see him in his main appearance, the events of I Cor 15 and Mt 28:16-20. This current thread of mine is an offshoot of my discovery of the importance of this verse in that other thread. See the OP (largest bolded comment by me) and post #26 and #29 in Resurrection@Casey Quote:
I'm quite aware of the difficulties you bring out from gMatthew, which is hard to reconcile with the others. I have always taken a dim view of gMatthew as prone to reliance on hearsay. But it can be worked in. Kingsley even keeps sequential order by placing Mt 28:1 as a separate visit just before sundown on Saturday. By my order placing Mt. 28:2-4 ahead of 28:1, the questions you raise are not a problem. In no place is it said that the tomb was closed when the women arrived. The opening had already occurred in 28:2-4. As in my Post #1. But since I had to move 28:1, that gets you a ball, not a strike. |
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When you start switching the sequence of verses, you lose.
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So according to you, Jesus ascended to his Father between these two verses? Or did they all suffer from an incredibly short memory? And why then bother with telling the brothers "I am ascending to my Father and your Father and my God and your God.” If he already ascended and decended to his Father between these two selected verses? Shouldn't they have been reporting to his brothers that they had met Jesus twice on their way back from the tomb, and that morning he had both ascended to his Father and came back again? |
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Why did he tell Thomas to touch him? Also,didn't he tell the bandit on the cross that they would be in Heaven together that very day? So hadn't Jesus already ascended the same day he died?
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