PetriFB

I have that book, but not have copy and paste from it to this board.

Mere sense says to me, that is rational believe for example that the hosue has planned and builded up or that it has come by accident.

Same is also with complex life. It can't come by accident, it is lack of the sense and nonsense to believe that living mortals like the man and animals has come here by accident through the evolution.

Heippa also to you my countryman............... :wave:

Advocatus Diaboli

I have a hypothesis. Petri is a person who impersonates a creationist in order to make the creationists look silly.

Advocatus Diaboli

Ok. You should try to get your hands on Evoluutio - Kriittinen analyysi. It's a much, much, better book if one wants to refute evolution. It doesn't contain crap like "shrinkin Sun" etc.
I agree that it makes sense to believe that a house is planned and built by processes other than chance. However, a nail does not go into the board by sheer chance. It takes a hammer and a skilled worker. Genes can and do change without a skilled worker. Your analogy does not work if you're trying to compare evolution with housebuilding.

PetriFB

I respect to all people with every race. But fact's are fact's. I believe Creator who has planned the life of this world and from that point of view other possibilities looks silly. But I respect every person. It is also maybe the same with evolutionist's in their point of view the doctrine of the creationlooks silly.

But I urge everybody to read all very accurate. Can house come into view without plan and setup? Or could it come into view by accident?

Oikoman

Hi Petri,

A lot of your arguments are old, and have long since been refuted. Since most of us don't really have the time to go through all of them and deal with them one by one, several people have posted links to FAQ's that deal with these arguments. The talkorigins website has a lot of good information that can serve as a starting point. I realize the website is in english, and I sympathize with the difficulties of trying to understand technical writing if it is your second language (I have trouble even reading the newspaper in Norwegian), however it will be well worth your effort if you want to have a serious discussion on the topic. Some of us have spent years (or decades!) familiarizing ourselves on the topic of evolution, and a few of us are practicing scientists. I predict that if you only post these old and rather poor arguments for creationism, without making an effort to learn about evolution or why many of these arguments are not valid, the regulars here will just ignore you and you will not get any serious replies.

Doc.

PetriFB

To my mind rise my wife's first pregnancy, when we were with my wife, in ultrasonic description, in which we can watch from computer monitor our baby, which was in the stomach of my wife. The doctor, was looking like doctor, a bit aged, wise and promising. I tell to this doctor, that children is the gift of God and I believe Jesus Christ and the Bible. When we stopped watching the monitor, so came the time for the changing of the thought's to me and this doctor.

From the doctor I asked, that how over there to stomach of my wife fall into that baby? The doctor answered quickly; man fertilizes woman egg cell and so then start in the womb of the woman the life of the small person.

I asked from the doctor for new question ; how it is possible, that from there of my wife's stomach born small person, who has eyes, which can see and ears, which can hear? And how is possible, that this small person has small heart and all intestines, which are skillfully and harmoniced builded, so that this person have the ability to live?

And how it is possible, that this little one has feet whereby walk, hands in which are fingers by which can catch and make all kinds of things?

The doctor answers again very quickly; there in the egg cell of the woman is information, which with the help of it is built to be person. I asked again from the doctor of the question ; how that information has gone inside to that egg cell? The doctor answers again very quickly; it is programed there.

I asked from the doctor my last question ; in the computer is information, which person has programed there and without that programming there wouldn't have any information, so I will ask from you, who has programed that information to this egg cell? The doctor was moment quiet and considered and said; it must be the God, which you believe.

I was satisfied, because I have come there where I aimed, God is exist and His works are not hidden from this world.

PetriFB

Show me the information, which is old from my post's?

Sven

Thanks for a summary of the most crappy, outdated creationist arguments ever.

Please do some research first before making a fool out of yourself here.

This is at least a little bit newer - but apparently from Hovind, on the other hand. Makes it worse.

PetriFB

You have to cancel things by fact's not by saying this is old or don't make yourself a fool.

Fact's speaking not presumption's.

Ovazor

Fact is, your "arguments" have been so easily refuted so many times so long ago that using them makes you [appear foolish]. Refutations are easily available, see the talk.origins link many people have offered you.