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FatherMithras · 06-19-2006, 06:30 AM

Isn't there a quote somewhere in the bible about how non-christian spouses are okay thanks to their saved wives or vice versa? I've seen it before but can't find it.

Duck · 06-19-2006, 06:46 AM

1 Corinthians 7:12-14

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To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

countjulian · 06-19-2006, 08:12 AM

Paul also goes on to say that it's OK for the believer to divorce the apistos (infidel).

gstafleu · 06-19-2006, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by countjulian

Paul also goes on to say that it's OK for the believer to divorce the apistos (infidel).

Where does he do that? that seems to go against the previous quote. In a quick biblegateway search (on "divorce") I couldn't find it.

countjulian · 06-19-2006, 09:27 AM

He goes on right afterword to say

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1 Corinthians 7:15, 16
But if the unbeliever leaves, let him do so. A believing man or woman is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?

gstafleu · 06-19-2006, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by countjulian

He goes on right afterword to say...

Ah, so he does not say it is ok to (actively) divorce an unbelieving spouse. Rather, if the unbelieving spouse were to leave of his/her own volition, than you should not stop the spouse. That is different than initiating procedures yourself. I think.

BioBeing · 06-19-2006, 12:16 PM

Don't forget 2 Corinthians 6:

14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people."

EthnAlln · 06-20-2006, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gstafleu

Ah, so he does not say it is ok to (actively) divorce an unbelieving spouse. Rather, if the unbelieving spouse were to leave of his/her own volition, than you should not stop the spouse. That is different than initiating procedures yourself. I think.

Well, it's the basis of the "Pauline privilege," which the Catholic Church uses as an excuse to allow divorced non-Catholics to marry within the Catholic Church. Catholics have to get a lot of money together (surprised? anyone?) and have their previous marriage declared null, as Ted Kennedy did after 10 years and I-forget-how-many children. I guess Joan must have converted when she got married. Otherwise Ted could have invoked Pauline. (I don't think his new girl-friend was actually named Pauline, however.)

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FatherMithras Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 3,890	Justified by the wife? Isn't there a quote somewhere in the bible about how non-christian spouses are okay thanks to their saved wives or vice versa? I've seen it before but can't find it.

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countjulian Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In the torture chambers of Pinochet's Chile Posts: 2,112	Paul also goes on to say that it's OK for the believer to divorce the apistos (infidel).

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BioBeing Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 6,004	Don't forget 2 Corinthians 6: 14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people."

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