sschlichter

It is illegal to hire illegal aliens. I would not hire someone that is not allowed to work in this country. I have friends that work in this country illegally, just not for me.

sschlichter

because in 7 years, you would have a growing population of idol worshippers living in your midst.

Johnny Skeptic

Are you saying that it is immoral to hire illegal aliens?

sschlichter

No, but I feel it is important to obey the law, if it is not immoral.

sschlichter

the point is that there is a different law for different people. You know the reason for this law so it does not seem immoral.

You now know the reason (at least one of them) for the slave law. However, the reason is only compelling for one who knows God. If you do not know God then you do not see the danger of false Gods to the nation of Isreal.

Johnny Skeptic

How is that? Weren't most non-Hebrew slaves idol worshippers? If so, freeing them would not have increased the number of idol worshippers.

Consider the following Scriptures from the NASB:

Deuteronomy 23:15-16

"You shall not hand over to his master a slave who has escaped from his master to you. He shall live with you in your midst, in the place which he shall choose in one of your towns where it pleases him; you shall not mistreat him."

Does that indicates to you that Hebrews were worried about having a growing population of idol worshippers in their midst?

Moses instructed his soldiers to capture women from a neighboring tribe who had not slept with men and keep them for themselves. Does that indicate to you that he was worried about having more idol worshippers around?

Johnny Skeptic

Message to sschlicter: Please reply to my post #578.

Johnny Skeptic

Ok, you believe that is it immoral to hire illegal aliens, and I believe that is was immoral for Old Testament Hebrews to involuntarily force non-Hebrew slaves to be slaves for life.

Yes, I know the reason for the law. Hebrews appointed themselves as God's chosen people, and believed that God considered them to be superior to everyone else in the world, and that is was appropriate to abuse inferior ethnic groups of people. Hebrews also believed that practicing the freedom of religion by worshipping other God's deserved the death penalty. You can call all of that moral if you wish, but I don't.

If you do not know that the God of the Bible does not exist, then you are the victim of false teachings. It is a virtual given that the claim that a global flood occured is false. If you believe the claim, that is adequate proof that you have abandoned common sense, logic, and reason.

If you had been born in other centuries, it is reasonable to assume that many of your beliefs would be different from what they are now. Chance and cirumstance are the primary or sole factors that influence what people believe, not the God of the Bible.

At the very least, Bible writers did not do people in future centuries any favors regarding their confusing writings about slavery, and many other issues for that matter such as the apparently different accounts of the events at the tomb of Jesus, and the apparently different versions of the death of Judas. Historically, Christians have differed on many important issues. If a God did not inspire the Bible, that explains that. If a God did inspire the Bible, I would like to know why he inspired so many needlessly confusing claims.

sschlichter

this is about one runaway slave, not a perpetual flow of freed men and women who were are still addicted to their foreign Gods.

However, that was only one of the reasons. consider if you keep a slave for 7 years in a foreign land and then let them go in a place where they have no family and no means of making a living. They could not hop in a train back to their homeland. They would just have to sell themselves into slavery again.

yes, because you are not understanding the context and are ignoring the details. They are instructed to shave their heads, which represents a break from their old life and starting a new life. Then they were instructed to take them as a wife, specifically not as a slave.

sschlichter

The topic is slavery. If you have exhausted all of your thoughts on slavery then start another thread on the flood, harmony of Judas' death, or the doctrine of inspiration.

Do you feel that all laws that differentiate between citizens and non-citizens are immoral? such as work laws in the US?