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Gospels "absolutely" aware of Paul?
Much is made of the fact that Paul has very little to say of the events of the Gospels. And everyone knows that Paul wrote before the Gospels.
Which makes me ask the logical question: Did any of the Gospel writers show a knowledge of Paul's ministry and epistles? After all, Paul was converted, preached, and martyred, what, a decade before Mark picked up a pen? Is there any knowledge in any of the Gospels about Paul and his arguments? |
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Matthew 5:19:
Whoever sets aside one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven.This might be an 'inside joke' directed against Paul - because Paul means "small" or "least" in Greek. |
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Here’s Paul:
Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes And here’s Matthew: Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I didn't come to destroy them, but to fulfill them Here’s Paul: Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved And here’s Matthew: Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven Here’s Paul: if your gift is prophecy, use your gift in proportion to your faith. And here’s Matthew: Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, we prophesied in your name Does anyone else but me see a pattern here? |
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These are indications that indications the gospels were written before the stories of Saul/Paul. On the other hand, the Pauline letters contain characters like Peter, James, John that are found in the gospels. These are indications that Pauline letters were late. Every-one who reads the church writings would know that in the writings atrributed to Paul that the Pauline writer did mention the author of gLuke and Acts of the Apostles. Further based on the church writings the Pauline author and Luke were inseparable as found in Irenaeus. The church writers clearly indicate that it was said Paul referred to the gospel of Luke as "my gospel". Now, according to the church writers the author of gMark picked up his pen before "Paul" was martyred, he got his gospel from Peter. Everyone who read the church writings knows all the chronology are erroneous and that includes every single book from gMatthew to Revelation. Every one knows they were wrong with Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Every one knows they were wrong with the epistles of Peter, John, James, Jude and Revelation. Every one knows they were wrong with the epistles to Timothy, Titus and Philemon. Every one knows that they must have gotten ALL OF Paul wrong. They did not get anything else right. |
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Acts of the Apostles was written by the same author as the Gospel of Luke. This has been known for quite some time.
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I don't think the gospel writers are aware of Paul. Or if they are, they're not aware of every single one of his epistles. The first person who seems to go out of his way to collect and cite the Pauline epistles in any sort of canon or argument is Marcion. Just like the gospels, there doesn't seem to be any orthodox user of Paul's letters prior to Marcion. But writers like Clement and Ignatius (AFIAK) write a word or two about Paul.
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