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beanpie · 12-14-2003, 05:09 PM

Who is the "US", referring to? PLEASE, PRESENT EVIDENCE, IF POSSIBLE.

Genesis:1
26: Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness;
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the
birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and
over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."
27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he
created him; male and female he created them.

The American Heritage� Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth
Edition. 2000.

image

SYLLABICATION: im�age
PRONUNCIATION: mj
NOUN: 1. A reproduction of the form of a person or object, especially
a sculptured likeness. 2. Physics An optically formed duplicate,
counterpart, or other representative reproduction of an object,
especially an optical reproduction formed by a lens or mirror. 3. One
that closely or exactly resembles another; a double: He is the image
of his uncle.

IF MAN WAS "MADE" IN THE "IMAGE" OF GOD, WHAT WAS GOD'S IMAGE?

PLEASE, RESPOND

Doctor X · 12-14-2003, 05:59 PM

It refers to the other gods.

--J.D.

Magus55 · 12-14-2003, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beanpie
Who is the "US", referring to? PLEASE, PRESENT EVIDENCE, IF POSSIBLE.

Genesis:1
26: Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness;
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the
birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and
over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."
27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he
created him; male and female he created them.

The American Heritage� Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth
Edition. 2000.

image

SYLLABICATION: im�age
PRONUNCIATION: mj
NOUN: 1. A reproduction of the form of a person or object, especially
a sculptured likeness. 2. Physics An optically formed duplicate,
counterpart, or other representative reproduction of an object,
especially an optical reproduction formed by a lens or mirror. 3. One
that closely or exactly resembles another; a double: He is the image
of his uncle.

IF MAN WAS "MADE" IN THE "IMAGE" OF GOD, WHAT WAS GOD'S IMAGE?

PLEASE, RESPOND

The "US" is referring to the Trinity.

rlogan · 12-14-2003, 07:16 PM

Hoo-wee!!

Magus, I got to hand it to you on that one. Pretty much wraps the whole Christian hot-dog in a whole wheat trinity bun!!

nice to see you, anyway. we don't talk much since the Noah thread.

Magus55 · 12-14-2003, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rlogan
Hoo-wee!!

Magus, I got to hand it to you on that one. Pretty much wraps the whole Christian hot-dog in a whole wheat trinity bun!!

nice to see you, anyway. we don't talk much since the Noah thread.

Well, thats what its referring to. You can believe its other gods if you want, but since the rest of the Old and New Testament says there is one God, and He condemns the worship of any others, it doesn't fit.

RUmike · 12-14-2003, 08:01 PM

I've wondered recently if the ancient Jews used to acknowledge the presence of other gods, but obviously believed in the worship of just one, their god. But is it possible they thought others existed, just that theirs was best and the only that deserved worship? It seems like these lines could support that position, but I really don't know anything on the issue, it is just purely speculation on my part.

Magus55 · 12-14-2003, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RUmike
I've wondered recently if the ancient Jews used to acknowledge the presence of other gods, but obviously believed in the worship of just one, their god. But is it possible they thought others existed, just that theirs was best and the only that deserved worship? It seems like these lines could support that position, but I really don't know anything on the issue, it is just purely speculation on my part.

It depends who you believe wrote the Bible. Most Christians I've met believe it was Moses, and He knew for a fact there was only one God. Abraham knew that also. The Jews knew based on the commandments, that there was only one God, and only He should be worshipped ( yes, many Jews did practice paganism, and they were punished for it). But I don't think thats a very plausible explanation. Reference to the Trinity is the only thing that makes sense imo.

sharon45 · 12-14-2003, 08:48 PM

The word "Us" refers to G-d addressing his "court" in Heaven. The "trinity", is christian belief.

Magus55 · 12-14-2003, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sharon45
The word "Us" refers to G-d addressing his "court" in Heaven. The "trinity", is christian belief.

What are you referring to by "court"? The angels? If you are, you are wrong since the angels don't have the power to create, and humans aren't created in their image.

mike_decock · 12-14-2003, 08:54 PM

My impression is that there was a theological evolution from polytheism/henotheism to monotheism. Another OT verse which implies a polytheistic view would be Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Anyone care to comment on the chronology of this evolution?

-Mike...

12-14-2003, 05:09 PM	#1
beanpie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: voston Posts: 699	Who is the "US", referring to? PLEASE, PRESENT EVIDENCE, IF POSSIBLE. Who is the "US", referring to? PLEASE, PRESENT EVIDENCE, IF POSSIBLE. Genesis:1 26: Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." 27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. The American Heritage� Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000. image SYLLABICATION: im�age PRONUNCIATION: mj NOUN: 1. A reproduction of the form of a person or object, especially a sculptured likeness. 2. Physics An optically formed duplicate, counterpart, or other representative reproduction of an object, especially an optical reproduction formed by a lens or mirror. 3. One that closely or exactly resembles another; a double: He is the image of his uncle. IF MAN WAS "MADE" IN THE "IMAGE" OF GOD, WHAT WAS GOD'S IMAGE? PLEASE, RESPOND

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12-14-2003, 05:59 PM	#2
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	It refers to the other gods. --J.D.

12-14-2003, 07:16 PM	#4
rlogan Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,159	Hoo-wee!! Magus, I got to hand it to you on that one. Pretty much wraps the whole Christian hot-dog in a whole wheat trinity bun!! nice to see you, anyway. we don't talk much since the Noah thread.

12-14-2003, 08:01 PM	#6
RUmike Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 491	I've wondered recently if the ancient Jews used to acknowledge the presence of other gods, but obviously believed in the worship of just one, their god. But is it possible they thought others existed, just that theirs was best and the only that deserved worship? It seems like these lines could support that position, but I really don't know anything on the issue, it is just purely speculation on my part.

12-14-2003, 08:48 PM	#8
sharon45 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Southwest, US Posts: 8,759	The word "Us" refers to G-d addressing his "court" in Heaven. The "trinity", is christian belief.

12-14-2003, 08:54 PM	#10
mike_decock Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,505	My impression is that there was a theological evolution from polytheism/henotheism to monotheism. Another OT verse which implies a polytheistic view would be Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Anyone care to comment on the chronology of this evolution? -Mike...

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