FRDB Archives

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.


Go Back   FRDB Archives > Archives > Religion (Closed) > Biblical Criticism & History
Welcome, Peter Kirby.
You last visited: Today at 03:12 PM

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-27-2004, 11:14 AM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Mister B, Sicily
Posts: 74
Question Missing something here

O.K. so Adam and eve created original sin, jesus died on the cross to rid the world of this, rose again for some reason, and now it's either worship me or suffer for eternity. I have all that, but I have a question where did all the souls go between eve taking the apple and jesus dying on the cross?

*edit- sorry I thought I was in the bible criticism section...move if need be.
WindBelow is offline  
Old 07-27-2004, 11:39 AM   #2
WCH
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 6,290
Default

His sacrifice was an atemporal one, applying to people both before and after. Of course, it's not exactly possible for someone living before him to believe in him, so I guess one Christian explanation could be that God knows whether they would have believed or not, given the chance.
WCH is offline  
Old 07-27-2004, 11:42 AM   #3
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Up Shit Creek
Posts: 1,810
Default

Hell.

Remember the part in the Bible where Jesus went to Hell for two(or three, depending on the Gospel) days before His resurrection?

He went to get Moses and the Righteous Unbelivers out of Hell.

Yes, they were in Hell.

No, they didn't know about Hell, or Heaven, when they died. And no, Hell wasn't even mentioned by Jews in the Bible as a place for humans until about the early or middle of the first century BCE.
NearNihil Experience is offline  
Old 07-27-2004, 02:09 PM   #4
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton, England
Posts: 6,947
Default

In the Old Testament, all dead people went to Sheol, the underworld. Heaven is mentioned, but only as a physical place above the clouds, not as a spiritual realm.

The concept of Heaven and Hell as places for dead people to go was only invented later, around the time that Christianity was invented.
Dean Anderson is offline  
Old 07-27-2004, 02:21 PM   #5
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Mister B, Sicily
Posts: 74
Default

Alright thanks, are there any writings out there that explain Sheol in detail, because it sounds like all people went to the same place whether they were good or not. So unless if this Sheol was a mirror image on dante's sturcture of hell, it doesn't sound that bad of a place.
WindBelow is offline  
Old 07-28-2004, 12:47 AM   #6
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Eagle River, Alaska
Posts: 7,816
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WindBelow
Alright thanks, are there any writings out there that explain Sheol in detail, because it sounds like all people went to the same place whether they were good or not. So unless if this Sheol was a mirror image on dante's sturcture of hell, it doesn't sound that bad of a place.
You might be interested in reading this recent thread
Amaleq13 is offline  
Old 07-29-2004, 11:09 AM   #7
CX
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Portlandish
Posts: 2,829
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WindBelow
Alright thanks, are there any writings out there that explain Sheol in detail, because it sounds like all people went to the same place whether they were good or not. So unless if this Sheol was a mirror image on dante's sturcture of hell, it doesn't sound that bad of a place.
Even today, Judaic metaphysics focuses much more on the here and now than on any afterlife.
CX is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:11 PM.

Top

This custom BB emulates vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.