Sheshbazzar

Whooo! Like I'm reaaally going to be impressed by your "Faculty of Divinity"?

NOT.
A bunch of supporters and repeaters of the same old filthy and lying dead doctrines of filthy and willfully lying dead men, that have always contributed to so much totally unnecessary war, predjudice, oppression and misery for mankind "In the name of Gawd".
You be impressed, betray all of humanity for your "reward" of paying your lip service to liars and their lies.

Roger Pearse

Disinterest in the NT seems an eminently rational position to me. If it's all nonsense, then why should we be interested.

The people I don't understand are those who, believing that it is all nonsense, believing that they have only one life, nevertheless choose to spend their limited hours on the NT rather than on something positive and constructive.

arnoldo

The people I don't understand are those, who believing that is all nonsense, choose to spend their time attacking the OT/NT

Amaleq13

You don't see why anyone would be interested in why "all nonsense" could survive for two thousand years to be one of the world's primary religions?

IMV, it is a fascinating mystery involving incredibly convoluted evidence and profoundly powerful psychological processes which may never be solved absent the discovery of new evidence.

Sheshbazzar

Roger, I'd rather you not revise my statement. What I said was;

"it is of little matter to me, what inferences or conclusions my fellow skeptics might draw from its various fairy-tales."
And that was only in response to a Christian's attempt to maneuver me into disputing some statements concerning the "magical-water-into-wine" account that were made by my fellow skeptic PhilosopherJay.
I have found the study of all aspects of religion to be interesting, entertaining, and enlightening. That however, does not indicate that I am willing to swallow everything that is written in it, or that is being written about it, regardless of with whom such writing might originate.
As to what the NT is, according to all evidences, I am very confident of the position that it is "fabricated religious propaganda" and not real "history" , and further that it IS decidedly a "A bunch of borrowed pagan mythology crudely cobbled together and pasted onto to the fabric of an ancient Hebrew national creation myth.
A political/religious ruse conveniently adaptable to the domination and manipulation of the ignorant and superstitious, and to the fleecing of the flock for the benefit of both the church and the state."

It is good when men pull their heads out of their asses long enough to recognise these things, so they are no longer need remain the unawares victims of institutionalised lies and religious bull-shit.

arnoldo

Yes, it's either an incredibly convoluted fairy tale or the truth. Since I suffer from cognitive dissonance it's to my benefit to defend my belief system but I don't understand why skeppies feel the need to attack the OT/NT if it's just a [F]airy-tale. Perhaps people deep down feel the need to belong to a group be it religous or non-religous (basic social psychology 101 concept).

Sheshbazzar

Arnoldo, I do not believe that it is all nonsense. "IT", The "Old Testament", "New Testament", "the Apocrypha of both", the "writings of the Church Fathers", and all other "Christian" literature, IS all "religiously motivated propaganda" and all were composed with very little regard for actual truth or history, existing only to support "The religious System" through the means of religious deception.

Minimalist

Speaking just for myself, Roger, it is because of the damage which its adherents have inflicted on society throughout history. Even worse, are the ones who want to "teach" creationism in our schools, ignore environmental problems because "jesus is coming back anyway," and enact laws to punish anyone who they determine that their 'god' does not like.

If they want to scare themselves silly with boogeyman tales from the Iron Age in their churches, that's fine. They have a constitutional right in this country to do so. Just keep it out of our schools, courthouses and science labs.

Sheshbazzar

Amen.

arnoldo

Thanks for the clarification . However even it it's all a religious deception it's still worth studying since "it," the OT/NT, has had such an impact on our world. Western Civilization is largely based on the Judeo/Christian ethic and Greco-Roman politics. Sadly, we seem to be living in a post- christian world and so far it's doesn't appear the secular humanists have any solutions.