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Meaning of deaconesses in Pliny
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Obviously early Christians made the mistake of letting women participate beyond the sex-slave level. At least they reformed things to the level of requiring them to be silent at church meetings later.
Seriously, does it not demonstrate that it was successfully circulating amongst the downtrodden? Slaves as deaconesses? |
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The masculine value of the word seems to be more often translated as minister.
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But slaves who were deaconesses sounds tautological!
Slaves who were servants or attendants? Was he investigating is it a religious or political association? |
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And I thought temple prostiution was a high class profession!
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The deaconesses in Pliny were not senior officials and although they may have been clergywomen, this is not how Pliny's pagan readers would have understood the term. Andrew Criddle |
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What evidence is there in the Pliny letters to eliminate the deaconesses from being senior officials? What was the highest rank among the sect with the deaconesses? |
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According to John S. Kloppenborg's article "Collegia and Thiasoi: Issues in Function, Taxonomy and Membership," in Voluntary Associations in the Graeco-Roman World (Routledge, 1996):
OrganizationWhile Pliny the Younger would correspond with emperor Trajan in Latin, the locals Pliny governed were Greek speaking, and diakonos was apparently the name of one of the official positions of this particular voluntary association which went by the name "christians." DCH Quote:
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