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10-05-2003, 11:22 PM | #11 | |
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Jesus' brothers wanted him to go to Judea to impress the crowd. Jesus was not to go then but later. "I am not YET going up to this Feast" He did not say He wasn't going to the Feast. |
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10-06-2003, 05:30 AM | #12 | |
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Obviously, this would show some kind of problem, as why would some translators decide not to use the word to begin with. "I am NOT going to the feast" sounds more troublesome than "I am not YET going to the feast". At first, this never gave me a problem until I started following the footnotes. So, any historians know anything about the manuscripts and the presence of this elusive qualifying word "yet"? |
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10-06-2003, 06:03 AM | #13 |
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And the "yet" clearly looks like an interpolation when you read on in the story and discover that Junior [tm Dr. X], then went to the Feast in secret. He wouldn't have said "yet" and then go in secret.
So those defenders waste their time addressing the "yet." * * * Although, I can construe the passage as no lie, just a changing of the mind His brothers (who didn't believe he was a deity) said "go and show your miracles." Jesus said, "No, I'll get arrested." Then, later, he changes his mind and decides to go in disguise. [Though it's great to have a third-person omniscient narrator for these stories]. |
10-06-2003, 07:01 AM | #14 | |
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The critical part here is the journey of the Magi during the eight day period (here called Feast of Booths), and it is not until they are past the midpoint of their journey that the New Reign has taken hold in the mind of Jesus. The not "yet" makes reference to this point but regardless if it was added later or not, the reason for Jesus to go could not be one of self gratification and that is why they went to Galilea where the New Reign of God could become his teacher. Notice that Jesus did not enter the temple until past the mid-point of the festival and the temple here is his conscious mind. In our calender year this is called New Year which is also midway between the Christ-mas and Epiphany. |
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10-06-2003, 07:32 PM | #15 |
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I should add here that the feast of Tabernacles is held in memory of the children of Israel who died there nonetheless (I just love that word), because there was nothing holy in their tents (read minds) . . . which is obvious from the scriptures they longed for and received from Moses instead of directly from God. So it can be said that they were 'temple traders' from day one and therefore wisdom never came their way and that is exactly why Jesus could not go until confirmation came his way.
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