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Old 03-03-2009, 09:34 PM   #31
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but seems to have some very strange ideas about Judaism but no reliable sources.

Reminder: the status quo is in dispute - thus it is not strange to have an alternative premise. The creation/evolution debate is nowhere near resolved - the dispute is not affirmed by an alternative premise but only by a rejection without a valid replacement. The same applies to doctrines of different beliefs - we have two religions contesting the Hebrew bible - but none have improved anything what they claim as their transcendence - and both of them are in a mutually exclusive disposition what they subscribe to: aka chaos.
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There is the heresy of “feel-goodism” where in one translates some happy thoughts about religion and forgets the actual text and its history. By the way, are the Ten Commandments actually laws?

You did not answer my question - Can you show me a Hebrew Democracy, when they had the chance to set it up why didn’t they?

Are there Hebrew documents that spell out an individuals rights? Rights and laws are very different concepts.

While we are at it, perhaps you could take a look at some more of their laws and see if they might be a little different than our civil laws. Ones like killing witches and disobedient children, actually it should be quite easy.

Maybe on a more interesting tangent, one could easily make the case that segments of Judaism evolved a philosophy of “peace, love and understanding” – but that’s not a legal platform.

You also need to show that these laws existed outside of any influence, say the code of Hammurabi. If so then I need some dates for those Hebrew laws. I suppose if you could prove that God was in a tent dictating these laws to Moses you could prove that no other laws like this existed previously?


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'IN GOD WE TRUST'. Singular. There is no alternative to this factor for those who uphold any beliefs - not even via science and math.
But every time the atheists try to get that removed from the money, because it's a violation of CSS, the thumpers maintain that it's a general god, not a specific one, and refers only to the basic concept of divinity.

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For who? Where is this specified?
I kinda recall 110 day sub deployments, and spending 6 hours out of every 18 doing my work. No day of rest. And that's working directly for the government formed by the constitution you claim is entirely inspired by the Old Testament.
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I can't think of many things more immoral than sacrificing impure women.
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"Can you save a couple for me?"

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'All' moral, ethical and Judiciary laws the world follows comes exclusively from the Hebrew bible. Sounds very far fetched and haughty
...you left out asinine, unsupportable, and laughably ignorant.
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Did you know that in the Midianites’ slaughter, Moses also killed ALL his wife’s family? Think about it. Zipporah was a Midianite. Moses’ two sons probably saw their grandparents no more after the holocaust.
Exodus 18 is very interesting about Moses’ father-in-law, who RETURNED to his own land [to 40 years later have all his family murdered by Moses’ marauders!].
Exodus 4:26 – “You’re a bloody patriarch, you deranged & insane terrorist husband!” said his wife Zipporah! [My paraphrase].
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I guess circumcision may be a punishment then.
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I guess circumcision may be a punishment then.
Well, exegetically nobody knows why Moses had not been circumcised while a baby. Funny, is it not?
Imagine the guy’s TERROR, when he saw the sharp stone!
He got thereafter psychologically affected for life.
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