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Old 02-28-2009, 01:34 PM   #1
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numbers 31

17: Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18: But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

to translate, kill all male children and non virgin women
rape everyone else

you tell me the bible is moral
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We don't have Elsewhere any more. Can you turn this into a serious topic?
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numbers 31

17: Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18: But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

to translate, kill all male children and non virgin women
rape everyone else

you tell me the bible is moral
Few on this DB will try to claim that the Bible is moral. Here at BC&H we like to discuss why these statements were made, based on our (limited) historical knowledge of the ancient Israelites of the old testament.
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numbers 31

17: Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18: But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

to translate, kill all male children and non virgin women
rape everyone else

you tell me the bible is moral
Sorry, I can't.
It's not part of my moral code.
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numbers 31

17: Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18: But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

to translate, kill all male children and non virgin women
rape everyone else

you tell me the bible is moral
Few on this DB will try to claim that the Bible is moral. Here at BC&H we like to discuss why these statements were made, based on our (limited) historical knowledge of the ancient Israelites of the old testament.
Few, in fact none, can claim the Hebrew bible is not the epitomy of moral laws. Your example is made selectively, and with no attendence of the text and period whatsoever. Nor did you allign with all the mandated moral/ethical laws in the same source. If you read carefully again, you will find that whatever is implied is actually the reverse - what was done is what was wantonly aspired by the other party.

'All' moral, ethical and Judiciary laws the world follows comes exclusively from the Hebrew bible. Sounds very far fetched and haughty - but please - check it out. :wave:
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Few on this DB will try to claim that the Bible is moral. Here at BC&H we like to discuss why these statements were made, based on our (limited) historical knowledge of the ancient Israelites of the old testament.
Few, in fact none, can claim the Hebrew bible is not the epitomy of moral laws. Your example is made selectively, and with no attendence of the text and period whatsoever. Nor did you allign with all the mandated moral/ethical laws in the same source. If you read carefully again, you will find that whatever is implied is actually the reverse - what was done is what was wantonly aspired by the other party.

'All' moral, ethical and Judiciary laws the world follows comes exclusively from the Hebrew bible. Sounds very far fetched and haughty - but please - check it out. :wave:
are you kidding

if the bible is the epitomy of marality what wrong with picking and choosing

incidentilly the bible lists over 300,000 death attributed to acts of god. add to that casualties of the flood and all those order to be killed

not moral!!!!!!!!
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Few, in fact none, can claim the Hebrew bible is not the epitomy of moral laws. Your example is made selectively, and with no attendence of the text and period whatsoever. Nor did you allign with all the mandated moral/ethical laws in the same source. If you read carefully again, you will find that whatever is implied is actually the reverse - what was done is what was wantonly aspired by the other party.

'All' moral, ethical and Judiciary laws the world follows comes exclusively from the Hebrew bible. Sounds very far fetched and haughty - but please - check it out. :wave:
Not wishing to clog the board up, here's one example...

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

Then I heard the LORD say "Look lads, can't we settle this peacefully, you know, let's like stop all this bloodshed, you're killing my creations".

Your statement begs many questions, for instance, what did God consider moral for all the people pre Bronze Age ? Were they not worthy of being given a code. I'm sure such questions have been flogged to death but no amount of reasoning appears to shift biblical dogma.
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'All' moral, ethical and Judiciary laws the world follows comes exclusively from the Hebrew bible.
OT source for the First Amendment, then? God is proactive on freedom of worship in what verse?
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numbers 31

17: Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18: But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

to translate, kill all male children and non virgin women
rape everyone else

you tell me the bible is moral
There was a quite interesting discussion of this on here a few months ago.

Your interpretation is rather amazing.

The girls spared probably had never had their first period.

The chapter goes on to suggest that some of the girls may have been human sacrifices. This may partially explain why mature women weren't selected because they would be ritually impure.

I can't think of many things more imoral than sacrificing impure women.

I suggest you read the bible more carefully.
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