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Old 07-28-2008, 04:15 AM   #41
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Job 38:13
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That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

a. He compares the earth to a rug.
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Earth,means a continent in that verse.
The 'ends of the earth' are continental shelves? God would have to shake the earth several times to get all the wicked. And, frankly, even if you're correct, the verse still fits a flat earth.
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Maybe you could say I am so pathetic, but I am so sad that you can't understand the bible.
No, you're sad that i don't accept your apologies for what is written in the Books.
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As I said before earth varies in meaning.
But you won't allow 'north' to vary in meaning? You're so cruel.

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Try to discover these verses.
I'll stick with reading them, for now. 'Discovery' seems to involve the heavy distribution of footnotes.
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I'll stick with reading them, fThe earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. -- Psalm 24:1-2.

or now. 'Discovery' seems to involve the heavy distribution of footnotes.


The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. -- Psalm 24:1-2.


http://www.geocentricity.com/astrono...ibleteach.html

But you won't allow 'north' to vary in meaning? You're so cruel.

I have common sense.And I know north doesnt vary its meaning.
If you stand on earth,and then you say the sky above is the north,the center will be you,the south will be inside the earth.So weird.
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[B]I'll stick with reading them, The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. -- Psalm 24:1-2.
Yep. Earth is founded upon the seas. Spread across the waters like a mud pie.
Takes some doing to use water as a foundation.
Although i had one contractor that probably would have tried it...
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But you won't allow 'north' to vary in meaning? You're so cruel.

I have common sense.
Except for a few blind spots.


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And I know north doesnt vary its meaning.
You KNOW this. Well, it's a pleasure to be talking with someone of perfect knowledge. Oh, and it's 'doesn't.'

So....the earth is a sphere because the North stretches up...
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[B]I'll stick with reading them, The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. -- Psalm 24:1-2.
Yep. Earth is founded upon the seas. Spread across the waters like a mud pie.
Takes some doing to use water as a foundation.
Although i had one contractor that probably would have tried it...
Wrong interpretation.Job says earth hang upon nothing.Nothing as in nothing as in without.
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Wrong interpretation.Job says earth hang upon nothing.Nothing as in nothing as in without.
Well, hanging with no physical support by a hard object, sure. Not the same as saying 'positioned by gravity and inertia.' Still works as a dome floating in The Waters.

It occurs to me that your very argument is a concession of defeat.
I'm trying to read what the The Books says, and figure out what the author was meaning to convey. I can come up with results that bear the marked influence of Bronze Age cosmology. Flat earth, sun and moon rolling around inside a solid sky, and so on.

You're reading the same The Books, interpreting the meaning, but making sure that the resulting meaning dovetails with modern science.
That means that modern scientific knowledge is what's driving your understanding of the Books. I think that's really cool!!
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Well, hanging with no physical support by a hard object, sure. Not the same as saying 'positioned by gravity and inertia.' Still works as a dome floating in The Waters.
Your answer always become weird.
Hang???
Figurative speech.Author have an exageration about hang.
No terms before about gravity,inertia.No matter what happened hang is the best term that fit at that time.
Seek wisdom,have understanding.
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Hang???
Figurative speech.Author have an exageration about hang.
But you said it was a sign of advanced knowledge. Now it's figurative?

Well, that's my point. You cannot know if words in The Books are figurative or literal until you bounce them off of modern scientific understanding. That means science is superior to any sort of discernment or divine message. Hey! You agree with us! That's great!


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No terms before about gravity,inertia.
So, you're premise is that god gave the authors of The Books advanced scientific knowledge with great precision, but did NOT give them the basic words to express those ideas? This is 'common sense' to you?

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Okay, i'll try. But i really don't have to, do i? Science already won. Thanx for playing.
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But you said it was a sign of advanced knowledge. Now it's figurative?

Well, that's my point. You cannot know if words in The Books are figurative or literal until you bounce them off of modern scientific understanding. That means science is superior to any sort of discernment or divine message. Hey! You agree with us! That's great!

No......Its the wisdom that know and interpreted it.A Wisdom man ,a man who have f understanding.That mean you have no understanding at all about Bible.
So, you're premise is that god gave the authors of The Books advanced scientific knowledge with great precision, but did NOT give them the basic words to express those ideas? This is 'common sense' to you?
He gave to the men a way to find and discover things,to form new term.It was in the beggining the term already formed but god have wisdom why he design the gradual discoveries of terms.
Seek Wisdom, Have understanding.
First you take out earthly pleasure,pride,depart from evil.
I know for you its hard to do it,as hard as rock.
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Real history
Noah's flood(1556 years after ceation)
1.Polystrate fossil http://www.creationresearch.org/crsq...te_fossils.htm http://yecheadquarters.org/shame.34.html
Ho-hum.

Polystrate fossils were explained in 1868 by John Dawson.

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Oldest Things Alive Today are around 4200 years old
(http://www.creationevidence.net/evbiology.shtml)
• The oldest living coral reef is less than 4200 years old.
• The oldest living tree in the world is about 4300 years old.
• The current population of earth (5.5 billion souls) could easily be generated from eight
People (survivors of the Flood) in less than 4000 years. http://ldolphin.org/popul.html
http://www.answersingenesis.org/crea.../i3/people.asp

Conclusion: Oldest living things support the account of Noah's flood which happened 4,400 years ago. Scientific dating is not so accurate maybe the oldest tree and oldest coral reefs was grow in the date after the flood in the same time.
Again, ho-hum.

The Chinese have an uninterupted calendar that dates back over 4,600 years.

Tell me, how do you think that they managed to miss a global flood?

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Flood stories around the world support The Great Flood http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

There are over 500 storied of flood around the world.These flood stories are frequently linked by common elements that parallel the Biblical account including the warning of the coming flood, the construction of a boat in advance, the storage of animals, the inclusion of family, and the release of birds to determine if the water level had subsided. The overwhelming consistency among flood stories found in distant parts of the globe indicates they were derived from the same origin.
1) How could people from all around the world even think up a global flood and why would they need to?
Maybe because civilization requires access to water, so civilization had to be near a water source and, therefore, susceptible to flooding.

As for the Grand Canyon, how does rapidly moving water carve something that meanders like this?



In short, you don't have a clue.

Try actually learning something instead of thinking that a collection of ancient stories written by a bunch of ignorant people are anything more than myth.
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