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BolshyFaker · 11-28-2006, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ChristMyth

Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ would have been a better movie if it had included that bit of dialog:

Priest: So,ahhh, how much for you to give up Jesus?
Judas: Thirty pieces of silver.
Priest: Thirty? Rather cheap don't you think.
Judas: Maybe, but the guy is an asshole. I didn't think you go higher than
that.

Christmyth

No, no, no you've got to haggle!

I don't want to bloody haggle, just go and crucify the git. :devil:

PS - ah found it:

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HARRY THE HAGGLER: Haggle properly. This isn't worth nineteen.
BRIAN: Well, you just said it was worth twenty.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Ohh, dear. Ohh, dear. Come on. Haggle.
BRIAN: Huh. All right. I'll give you ten.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: That's more like it. Ten?! Are you trying to insult me?! Me, with a poor dying grandmother?! Ten?!
BRIAN: All right. I'll give you eleven.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Now you're gettin' it. Eleven?! Did I hear you right?! Eleven?! This cost me twelve. You want to ruin me?!
BRIAN: Ohh, tell me what to say. Please!
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Offer me fourteen.
BRIAN: I'll give you fourteen.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: He's offering me fourteen for this!
BRIAN: Fifteen!
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Seventeen. My last word. I won't take a penny less, or strike me dead.
BRIAN: Sixteen.
HARRY THE HAGGLER: Done. Nice to do business with you.

douglas · 11-28-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ksen

I didn't feel it was appropriate for me to try and interrupt the two-minute hate.

Just because I think Jesus was full of himself a tad doesn't mean I hate the guy. For me, it just makes him that much more human and real. Mark paints a very human picture of Jesus - he laughs, cries, gets pissed off, etc. And in Luke 14, Jesus even tells a joke:

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7 When he noticed how the guests picked the places of honor at the table, he told them this parable: 8 "When someone invites you to a wedding feast, do not take the place of honor, for a person more distinguished than you may have been invited. 9 If so, the host who invited both of you will come and say to you, 'Give this man your seat.' Then, humiliated, you will have to take the least important place. 10 But when you are invited, take the lowest place, so that when your host comes, he will say to you, 'Friend, move up to a better place.' Then you will be honored in the presence of all your fellow guests. 11 For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

Granted, not much of a knee-slapper, but he's trying to make light of an awkward situation. By the time John's gosple gets a hold of Jesus, all manner of humanness is taken out of him. Yuck!

No Robots · 11-28-2006, 10:27 AM

Have any of you worked with a genius? Look at Steve Jobs, for example. By all accounts, he can be a horrible tyrant. But everyone who has a cheap, easy-to-use computer owes him a deep debt of gratitude. Yet, what is Steve Jobs compared to Christ? Christ constructed our understanding of ourselves in an indelible way. And how did he do that? By showing us himself. All of himself.

Biff the unclean · 11-28-2006, 10:42 AM

Yes, I work with a genius. I work with Dr Penny Patterson and a nicer person you couldn't hope to meet.
"Christ" is only a character in a story and has nothing to do with understanding yourself. Unless you are some poor soul who has been brain washed by the christian cult and have lost your self identity.

No Robots · 11-28-2006, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Biff the unclean

Yes, I work with a genius. I work with Dr Penny Patterson and a nicer person you couldn't hope to meet.
"Christ" is only a character in a story and has nothing to do with understanding yourself. Unless you are some poor soul who has been brain washed by the christian cult and have lost your self identity.

Well, as we all know, different people understand things in different ways.

steamer · 11-28-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by No Robots

Have any of you worked with a genius? Look at Steve Jobs, for example. By all accounts, he can be a horrible tyrant. But everyone who has a cheap, easy-to-use computer owes him a deep debt of gratitude.

Thanks Steve!

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Originally Posted by No Robots

Yet, what is Steve Jobs compared to Christ?

Real?

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Originally Posted by No Robots

Christ constructed our understanding of ourselves in an indelible way. And how did he do that? By showing us himself. All of himself.

Bullshit. Christ did not construct our understandings of ourselves. Do you even read the hooey you type?

No Robots · 11-28-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by steamer

Bullshit. Christ did not construct our understandings of ourselves. Do you even read the hooey you type?

Let me put this in terms that even you might be able to understand: for 2,000 years our entire social fabric has been constructed around this single individual. And, as we know, our understanding of ourselves is by and large derived from the social fabric that surrounds us.

blastula · 11-28-2006, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by No Robots

Well, as we all know, different people understand things in different ways.

Well played No Robots.

angela2 · 11-28-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by No Robots

Let me put this in terms that even you might be able to understand: for 2,000 years our entire social fabric has been constructed around this single individual. And, as we know, our understanding of ourselves is by and large derived from the social fabric that surrounds us.

You have a point. Let's hope you get a constructive response.

steamer · 11-28-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by No Robots

Let me put this in terms that even you might be able to understand:

"Even I might understand?" Do spread forth the sunshine of you fierey intellect, I stand by to be impressed by such an intellectual giant as yourself. <gag>

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Originally Posted by No Robots

for 2,000 years our entire social fabric has been constructed around this single individual.

Nonsense. Small pox was once a disease that also affected men, that doesn't mean it was a good thing. The manipulative used a story to impress the ignorant and we are still fighting that same manipulation. This single individual was a character in a book. Religions on the other hand are filled with real people and we are to this day fighting religions false claims.

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Originally Posted by No Robots

And, as we know, our understanding of ourselves is by and large derived from the social fabric that surrounds us.

We already knew that men commit frauds on a grand scale even before Constantine pulled Christianity out of the dirt for his own use. Our understandingof ourselves in my opinion has been more affected by the realization that the creation story in the bible has no basis in reality. It was a hoax. We are is animals with large brains. Nothing more. All your pretention and reverence doesn't change the fact that Jesus, if he existed at all was aslo just another large primate with a large brain.

The bible authors that you worship as gods, are also just animals with large brains, just like you. They lie, they cheat, the misrepresent and they are often mistaken, also just like you if you. Oh, sorry I forgot I was talking to some mighty intelllect. Please enlighten us further...

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11-28-2006, 10:27 AM	#23
No Robots Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Edmonton Posts: 5,679	Have any of you worked with a genius? Look at Steve Jobs, for example. By all accounts, he can be a horrible tyrant. But everyone who has a cheap, easy-to-use computer owes him a deep debt of gratitude. Yet, what is Steve Jobs compared to Christ? Christ constructed our understanding of ourselves in an indelible way. And how did he do that? By showing us himself. All of himself.

11-28-2006, 10:42 AM	#24
Biff the unclean Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: an inaccessible island fortress Posts: 10,638	Yes, I work with a genius. I work with Dr Penny Patterson and a nicer person you couldn't hope to meet. "Christ" is only a character in a story and has nothing to do with understanding yourself. Unless you are some poor soul who has been brain washed by the christian cult and have lost your self identity.

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