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Huon · 07-18-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NightmareHero

The problem of why atheists dislike the Christian religion, or for that matter, any monotheistic religion that speaks of Jesus, is that they sometimes have problems with not just the people, but the laws of such religions. However, there are misconceptions of what constitutes real Christian doctrine and applied Christian doctrine (or possibly, false Christian doctrine, but more on that later). Belief in a rule is not the same as applying it first hand to real life situations, there are ALWAYS extenuating circumstances.

It is well known that atheists are fundamentally immoral. :devil1:

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God is not an idiot

Is it possible ? That will help me for my future conversion. :devil3:

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Throughout history mankind has evolved not only in technology but in intellect and emotional reasoning. God has had to give simple rules that people could follow that people of each era would respect and obey. The people that lived in the time of Moses were much more primitive and stubborn to laws than the people who lived in the time of Christ, and much, much more primitive than the people of today. God had to give doctrines so that they would be obeyed, and that's assuming that everything that has been spoken was from him or an angel he sent from Heaven to the prophets, and not an angel of Sakla or Sakla himself (the Devil and Satan as he is called in the Gnostic Gospels).

1 - You are insulting gratuitously the ancestors of mankind.
2 - Moreover, your mind is fogged by the satanic theory of evolution.
3 - Thirdly, you seem to believe that modern people are not prone to breaking the laws of today.

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The point is this, God doesn't want you to not think. Far from it, God expects you to whole-heartedly think for yourselves. This is the principle of Gnostic Christianity, that you save yourself by way of self-discovery and knowledge.

Thank you, God !

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Also, some Atheists make their dislike of Christians and Christianity in general on the basis of the famous ten commandments, when Jesus himself has broken and WILL contradict these commandments to ensure that the will of God is carried out!

He broke the fourth commandment of not working on the Sabbath by healing the sick and dying on the Sabbath! something that was forbidden at the time by the Pharisees.

It is well known that nobody dies on the Sabbath (when a Jew), or on Sunday (when a Christian), or on a Friday (when a Muslim).

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If there is anything that I find despicable about Christianity myself, it is people pretending to be Christians who are actually children of the Devil and Satanists in disguise, and likewise those who are Pharisees who hold on to a narrow interpretation of God and embrace the old instead of accepting the new.

Please, please, give us a rule to pick out the good Christians from the bad ones.

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Now lets look at some cold hard proof of Sakla's interference with the Jews....

Let us go on with some antisemitism, now.

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Exodus 20:5 - "For I, the Lord your God, am jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me..."

Bad Jewish parents.

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with this which pertains to Sakla:

"He is wicked in the mindlessness within him. He said, 'I am God and there is no other God beside me,' since he did not know from where his own strength had come." (The Secret book of John)

Here, I must confess that I agree, Sakla is a bad guy !

Julian · 07-18-2007, 11:06 AM

The above post constitute direct evidence that

Huon = Evil

therefore

Huon = Devil

(Disclaimer: This is not meant to infer that Huon is The Devil, since the Devil cannot, by definition, be French. Instead, it is meant as indicating that Huon is simply A Devil.)

DancesWithCoffeeCups · 07-18-2007, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NightmareHero

Why Atheists Dislike Christianity

By Amin Emilio Aun Joven

I was once an atheist....

Now I'm a Christian.

Now having been an atheist and a Christian, I have a unique perspective on what atheists have thought their entire lives....

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Wrong.

You have a perspective on what you as an atheist thought. Period.
Atheists don't think alike much at all other than their agreement that there is no credible evidence for the existence of god.

Sorry, you lost me after your declaration of "unique perspective".

purple_kathryn · 07-18-2007, 11:13 AM

sorry

still an atheist

Pseudo-Deity · 07-18-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NightmareHero

Now having been an atheist and a Christian, I have a unique perspective on what atheists have thought their entire lives

I wasn't aware that the millions upon millions of atheists that reside on this planet all think in a completely uniform manner. The "I use to be an atheist" approach is pretty damn universal amongst apologists, so you aren't anything different than the countless others who come 'round here to preach, so your perspective seems like a horribly derivative apologetics technique.

Newsflash, everyone used to be an atheist, as everyone was born without a belief in God. Also, I'd say many, if not most of the people on this forum are former Christians, so we generally also meet the standard for what you would call a "unique perspective".

Julian · 07-18-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by purple_kathryn

sorry

still an atheist

More importantly, still purple, despite the ointment...

pob14 · 07-18-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by windsofchange

Is this something that you wrote yourself? Are you Amin Emilio Aun Joven? If not, could you tell us where you cut and pasted it from?

Amin [etc.] is a bad poet, a sometime sci-fi writer, and, apparently, our new friend himself.

Here is another of his theological musings, on the Ten Sins of the Devil. Warning: Comfortable chair and recreational chemicals may be required.

Toto · 07-18-2007, 11:56 AM

The essay is here, on the OP's listed website.

Nightmare Hero claims to be a Gnostic Christian. Most of us atheists here probably prefer Gnostic Christians to the orthodox, if only on esthetic grounds, or just because we root for the underdog, and it is interesting to contemplate how history might have been different if the Gnostics had prevailed. But I can't see any value to modern people in resurrecting this 1st century way of thinking, and it seems even less interesting than modern paganism.

In any case, this essay seems a strange combination of belief in God and the gospels, along with an attempt to make some sense of them. I don't think this effort is any more successful in the 21st century than it was in the 2nd, even though we have better drugs.

NightmareHero · 07-18-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by windsofchange

Is this something that you wrote yourself? Are you Amin Emilio Aun Joven? If not, could you tell us where you cut and pasted it from?

I wrote this myself.

NightmareHero · 07-18-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Autonemesis

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Originally Posted by NightmareHero

Now having been an atheist and a Christian, I have a unique perspective on what atheists have thought their entire lives....

Unique perspective? No he doesn't. There have been countless people just like him, and many of them wrote books about it.

My bad, I'll reword that in the next edition. or right now actually. EDIT: never mind, the time has expired to edit it. EDIT AGAIN: there, on my homepage it's been corrected.

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07-18-2007, 11:06 AM	#12
Julian Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Washington, DC (formerly Denmark) Posts: 3,789	The above post constitute direct evidence that Huon = Evil therefore Huon = Devil (Disclaimer: This is not meant to infer that Huon is The Devil, since the Devil cannot, by definition, be French. Instead, it is meant as indicating that Huon is simply A Devil.)

07-18-2007, 11:13 AM	#14
purple_kathryn Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,382	sorry still an atheist

07-18-2007, 11:56 AM	#18
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	The essay is here, on the OP's listed website. Nightmare Hero claims to be a Gnostic Christian. Most of us atheists here probably prefer Gnostic Christians to the orthodox, if only on esthetic grounds, or just because we root for the underdog, and it is interesting to contemplate how history might have been different if the Gnostics had prevailed. But I can't see any value to modern people in resurrecting this 1st century way of thinking, and it seems even less interesting than modern paganism. In any case, this essay seems a strange combination of belief in God and the gospels, along with an attempt to make some sense of them. I don't think this effort is any more successful in the 21st century than it was in the 2nd, even though we have better drugs.

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