Christian_Hunter

This writing can be found from http://www.angelfire.com/planet/koran/
, something to think about for Christians, very though one indeed:

JESUS PROPHESIED ISLAM / MOHAMMED (peace be upon him) AND TOLD ABOUT “PEOPLE OF THE BOOK”-RELIGIONS (in Qur´an 600 years later!), AND TIME-SCHEDULE OF THOSE, AND TOLD ORDER OF THOSE RELIGIONS WITH DESCRIPTIONS: (Allah knows best)


(These two "hidden prophecy" are connected to Luke.5:36-39, why new religion is necessary instead of change of old religions.)

1 "hour" = approx. 200 hundred years, from Abraham/Jacob 1800-1700 BC (and so Jewish-religion 1600 BC->) to Islam 632 AC = 2400 years / 12 hours = 200 years

Christian_Hunter

More about Bible:

Luke.12:51-52 “Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division; for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three.”

So house of Abraham is divided because of different beliefs on Jesus, mainly to 3 Christian religions (Orthodox, Catholics, Protestants) and to two Islamic religions (Sunni and Shiite). And it has NOT been denyed that these could battle even with other sects among themself, but most commonly conflicts have happened between Islam and Christianity.
Some Christians say this is about sacrifice inside real families (as in elsewhere there is used words as "mother against daughter") in case of "conversions" to another religions. Otherwise good explanation (in fact differences/similarities between "household" and f.ex. "daughter" can be seen to tell us that comparation between households and relationship with followers of other religions), but there has not been much such controversity and diversity in Christian-countries since emperor of Rome declared Christianity as only allowed religion. After that invaded areas in America, Africa and Asia have been efficiently converted, so giving protection for "converts" even from their own family. In modern secularism atheistics/traditional-believers usually could not care less if their child would like to celebrate (by singing etc.) Jesus. But in (now dominantly) Muslim-countries shift from Christian majority to Muslim majority took centuries, and so made accepting Islam very hard (even though only real dispute with Christians is position of Jesus, it might be reason why Jesus gave these words of comfort for those who are accepting Islam). Also "terrorism" and generally bad public image of Muslims has made even secular parents to panic if their children/partner finds Islam (yes, my mother too did so...).

Street_Scholar

forget it

Street_Scholar

I'd rather read the posts here: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...7&page=3&pp=20

Christian_Hunter

Why? Did not quite get what you meant... Look:

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YUSUFALI: Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.


This interpretation fits little bit too well to this passage in first major Sura in Qur´an.

This interpretation emphasises tolerance and connection between Muslims and "People of the Book"- NATIONS (not just religions), it could reduce some extreme ideas and elements among Muslims at least. If even one life is saved because some possible terrorist will read this and learn to respect and understand more of these other Abrahamic religions, what is there to lose?

Christian_Hunter

Yes, I visited that link, and it was same link than in this writing I brought here, but it is connected to prophecy about "Kingdom of God" (not about these parallels), and there obviously one who wrote this all above is giving Christians verbal / biblical beatening of their lives, so what?

FatherMithras

Except you forgot the Coptics, the Oriental Orthodox, Armenian Christians etc. As well as Sufism... Hmmm.. Cherry picking much?

Street_Scholar

I see his point, but I'll have to agree with you.

FatherMithras

The funny thing is that the passage shown has exactly jack shit to do with Islam. It's the parable about how a master paid servants who worked all day, half a day, and an hour the same pay. It's about how it doesn't matter if you were converted at birth, midlife, or death, you are all equal to each other. There's ridiculous, hilarious begging from the text to try and interpret the hours as different prophets sent by god. It's not in there, and the only way you cans ee it in there is if you strain your mind to insert it.

Christian_Hunter

Not suprising. This is what Christians (and others also) say almost about anything. Even if Muslim-Jesus would be back (as Koran informs) to face them...

So you really think that Jesus was just full of unneccessarily big words (nice way to say it)?

In Koran Allah said that same with few words. Obviously in Bible it took whole page...