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By the way, it's hardly a private contorted interpretation. It's pretty much the accepted position among scholars. |
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You said, "Jesus accepted the scriptures [OT, in effect], not Judaism...and criticized Judaism extensively, as recorded in the NT." Jesus criticized the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees. Jesus referenced the saying of Isaiah - "ye teach for doctrine the commandments of men". Then Jesus called the Pharisees children of the devil. Liars. The arguments of Jesus and the Pharisees, Sadducees were Jewish arguments. Jesus is not shown as arguing with Gentiles about doctrine or commandments. Why? Because Gentiles had no doctrines or commandments. You said: "There is nothing wrong with the old covenant except that very few could keep it." The Old Covenant was circumcision and ALL Israelites/Jews kept it in their flesh - their kindred tribes. Although a few people of Israel are mentioned as leaving the God of Israel to go and worship the Queen of Heaven. Seems the Queen of Heaven gave them more prosperity and a better lifestyle than Yahweh, for they said that they were worse off when worshipping Yahweh. So they left Israel and Yahweh and were never heard from again. Also, there were more than a few Israelites/Jews who traded Yahweh in for the god of Babylon. These remained in Babylon because life was better. More food, better jobs and education, no circumcision. Yahweh was a tyrant and a mean bloodthirsty god. He hated everyone not Jewish and hated those Jews not willing to kill and slaughter for him. And he loved the aroma of beef roasting. Ever wonder what the Jews did with all that beef after the sacrificing? |
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Thus it matters not that they were never heard of, because God will bring them out of all nations :- Amos 9:9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth. Isaiah 66:20 And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD. Quote:
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Death is of no great consequence to God since He will resurrect all flesh, only humans make a great deal out of death ... Theocracy is like a benevolent dictatorship, not a tyranny ... |
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The old covenant was circumcision. All Israel kept the old covenant. New Covenant was law given at Sinai. You're saying that the 10 northern tribes were Israel. What then of the Jews? |
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