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Old 09-11-2012, 10:11 PM   #1
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Default Why Does Jerome Call Epiphanius 'Pope'?

I thought only Alexandrian and later Rome used this title.

http://books.google.com/books?id=-bA...ius%22&f=false

There are many, many other examples.
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Epiphanius is a pope of the greek church, not the bishop of Rome.
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IIUC, in Eastern Orthodoxy each bishop was also a "father" (Pope).

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I thought only Alexandrian and later Rome used this title.

http://books.google.com/books?id=-bA...ius%22&f=false

There are many, many other examples.
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He was a creep.
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‘Pope’ does not necessarily mean a Roman Catholic title.



Pope Shenouda III

Pope Shenouda III obituary

Egyptian spiritual leader of the Coptic Orthodox Church for more than 40 years
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...ouda-the-third
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‘Pope’ does not necessarily mean a Roman Catholic title.
It necessarily means a criminal, though.
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Pope

O.E. papa, from M.L. papa "bishop, pope" (in classical L., "tutor"), from Gk. papas "patriarch, bishop," originally "father." Applied to bishops of Asia Minor and taken as a title by the Bishop of Alexandria c.250. In Western Church, applied especially to the Bishop of Rome since the time of Leo the Great (440-461) and claimed exclusively by them from 1073. Popemobile, his car, is from 1979. Papal, papacy, later acquisitions in English, preserve the original vowel.


http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=pope
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Pope

O.E. papa, from M.L. papa "bishop, pope" (in classical L., "tutor"), from Gk. papas "patriarch, bishop," originally "father." Applied to bishops of Asia Minor and taken as a title by the Bishop of Alexandria c.250. In Western Church, applied especially to the Bishop of Rome since the time of Leo the Great (440-461) and claimed exclusively by them from 1073. Popemobile, his car, is from 1979. Papal, papacy, later acquisitions in English, preserve the original vowel.


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not today. pappas is reserved for the bishop of Alexandria
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