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ApostateAbe · 12-17-2009, 08:42 PM

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OK, is there a leading figure behind this sort-of philosophy?

No, but perhaps you noticed that I lean heavily on Classis and Romantic literature and hold the position that we are wrong long before the bible is wrong. To say that it is inerrant requires me to read it first and that is not my ambition in life.

That's cool, you don't have to read the whole Bible to get an effective judgment of its errancy. You need only to examine a portion of it. I am just trying to get a handle of where your ideas come from, because you said a bundle of unusual things about three posts ago. I grew up in a Protestant environment, and it is all alien to me.

Chili · 12-17-2009, 09:06 PM

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No, but perhaps you noticed that I lean heavily on Classis and Romantic literature and hold the position that we are wrong long before the bible is wrong. To say that it is inerrant requires me to read it first and that is not my ambition in life.

That's cool, you don't have to read the whole Bible to get an effective judgment of its errancy. You need only to examine a portion of it. I am just trying to get a handle of where your ideas come from, because you said a bundle of unusual things about three posts ago. I grew up in a Protestant environment, and it is all alien to me.

The problem here is that I defend its inerrancy but only to the extent that I have read it and that is limited to Genesis 1-3, the Gospels and the book of Revelation.

rhutchin · 12-19-2009, 03:18 PM

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To be sure, the lineage of Joseph shows the recorded human side while the lineage of Luke shows the inspired son-of-man side.

To be sure, the lineage of Joseph shows the lineage of Joseph.

The lineage of Luke tells us Jesus was of the lineage of Heli whom some conclude was a relative of Mary which seems reasonable as Jesus was not of Joseph even though many supposed Joseph to be His father.

Chili · 12-19-2009, 04:11 PM

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To be sure, the lineage of Joseph shows the recorded human side while the lineage of Luke shows the inspired son-of-man side.

To be sure, the lineage of Joseph shows the lineage of Joseph.

The lineage of Luke tells us Jesus was of the lineage of Heli whom some conclude was a relative of Mary which seems reasonable as Jesus was not of Joseph even though many supposed Joseph to be His father.

If you are happy with that is fine with me.

rhutchin · 12-20-2009, 02:26 PM

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To be sure, the lineage of Joseph shows the lineage of Joseph.

The lineage of Luke tells us Jesus was of the lineage of Heli whom some conclude was a relative of Mary which seems reasonable as Jesus was not of Joseph even though many supposed Joseph to be His father.

If you are happy with that is fine with me.

I am happy with it.

Johnny Skeptic · 12-20-2009, 03:16 PM

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The lineage of Luke tells us Jesus was of the lineage of Heli whom some conclude was a relative of Mary which seems reasonable as Jesus was not of Joseph even though many supposed Joseph to be His father.

If you are happy with that is fine with me.

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I am happy with it.

But the lineages only work if the earth in young. The earth is old, as even many conservative Christians experts know, including Roger Wiens, Ph.D., physicis, B.S., geology, and Hugh Ross, Ph.D., astronomy.

As far as I recall, you once made an appeal to empirical evidence in a debate at another forum. Have you abandoned empirical evidence regarding the young earth theory?

At any rate, Bible genealogies are not verifiable.

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