ziffel

Just read this thread. Wow ... i just don't... uh... wow.

What an amazing testimony to the power of indoctrination and sunday morning brainwashing.

one allegiance

yeah that is what I was saying. Just b/c he wasn't metioned doing something in one gospel doesn't mean he actually didn't do it. Further, why are you quoting the bible to me...it holds no relevance to you.

one allegiance

Show me. Show me where I did the picking and choosing. I read the text in the context that it was in, not just by taking out certain verses and clashing them with other verses to make seemingly contradictory statement.

RGD

In other words, nothing mentioned in the Bible is necessarily true. You've just shown that we can discard anything that produces a contradiction or is inconveniently wrong.

Perhaps you should consider applying some critical thinking to the problem at hand.

RGD

You just called one of the Gospel authors a liar: despite the fact that he said Jesus did something, you claim that Jesus didn't do it.

Basic picking and choosing. Like most Christians, you show an appalling ignorance of what the Bible actually says.

one allegiance

No, I didn't show that at all. I showed that you can't discard something and call it a contradiction if it is metioned in one gospel and not the other. What is the deal with this board...it is one of the most arrogant one's ive ever been on..:huh:

one allegiance

Where? I said Jesus did both of those things...one wasn't metioned by one author but it was by another author..I didn't discredit anyone here.

RGD

This board has more experts on the Bible, and more rational thinkers, than any other board I've dealt with.

The reason you're getting a hard time is that you're simply spouting the same old recycled fundie claptrap that we've seen and refuted a thousand times before. You're not unusual; you've nothing new to add to the conversation; and your material is old and boring.

That's why you engender hostility.

cjack

Just an FYI, there are people on these forums who know the Bible very, very well. Spend a little time in BC&H and you'll get a feel for the level of scholarship here. It is pretty darned impressive.

Now, could you please explain why you responded to my claim that there is no evidence for a world-wide flood with two links that argue for a regional flood, one that argues for a world-wide flood, and then denied that you were defending the Biblical Flood account?

one allegiance

I realize this. But if you don't believe it, why would you use it to prove or disprove something.

Maybe the sites I posted weren't sufficient but it still doesn't cancel the fact that the flood COULD have happened. There is no evidence that can disprove it. All you have is "uniformity". With that you are really begging the question, b/c there is NO real way to scientifically prove it...you can just make assumptions. The burden of proof isn't just on me, as many of you seem to think, it is on all of us.