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Old 03-04-2009, 07:25 PM   #1
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Here now are three passages from Allegro's profound study of the "Chosen People," which I copied down at the library an hour ago. In my view each of these passages is offensive and quite clearly antisemitic, but this will no doubt be hotly disputed by others.

My undersanding of this history is these forms of writings cannot be attributed at Christianity per se, as a separate entity from pre-christian Europe. The antisemitism is blatantly archived with a long thread of Hellenist and Roman writers, and they appear to mirror the medevial church, which appears an extension, as opposed a new religion born out of Judaism. The charges are self contradictory in numerous places, mixing historical factors [e.g. that Moses built the temple; charges of the barbarity no images and charges of asses being worshipped], while those very errors point to the veracity of the Hebrew texts by default.

What is striking is that the writings attributed to Paul and other Gospel writers - are not original and an almost copy of the pre-christian peoples, while the rejection of the Hebrew laws implies that Paul only made these laws negated because he would never be accepted otherwise - or that these were written much later and elsewhere. There is a clear thread from Hellenism, Romanism and Roman Catholocism, as is seen in a small list of references here:

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The above quote appears to have been copied and pasted from Aish.com. It has no relevance to the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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Another view.

IMHO< antisemitism does not come from the dead sea scrolls or the christian/islamic reactions to those discovered documents. The precedence factor applies - the reactions appears a mirror of how it was pre-christianity and Islam, which is evidenced from archives of the Greeks, Romans and pre-islamic arabs.

This shows a clear linear thread: most of humanity's groups found Monotheism robbing them of their thrones, a premise forewarned before Israel or the first Jewish offspring existed. The scrolls expose this in hard copy texts before today's religions existed, and which has been amply evidenced throughout history:

'KNOW FOR A SURETY YOUR SEED SHALL BE IN BONDAGE' [Genesis].

No reason was given or applicable: the seed had not yet emerged, thus no crime, blame and punishment applied. Today's neo science is the latest antagonist.
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...No reason was given or applicable: the seed had not yet emerged, thus no crime, blame and punishment applied. Today's neo science is the latest antagonist.
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It is that a recurrent concept in rabbinic world today: aspect that does closely together the way of thinking of the Jewish religious leaders with the Catholic ones. Both, in fact, consider science their enemy and it is clear that the ancient concept of the founding Catholic fathers, that's to say, 'Blessed are the poor in spirit, because theirs is the kingdom of heaven" is also present in Judaism.

In practice, this is an assumption that is valid for all religions based on the prophetic disclose "message" and on the incarnation about this or that "divine" character. All of them have something to hide: the deceptive nature of the religious institution which uses these deceptions to plagiarise the "poor in spirit", destined for this peculiar feature, to go at "paradise" ... It is for this reason that science makes them afraid. (Galilei docet)


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