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10-07-2007, 05:34 PM | #1 |
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guards at tomb question
How do Christians explain why the Jewish leaders would put guards at the tomb? Wouldn't they have wanted to leave the tomb unguarded so if the body disappeared , they could just say that his followers took the body?
Also, I don't think they believed that an empty tomb was proof of a resurrection, but only seeing the dead person alive again would be proof of a resurrection, so there was no reason to try to keep his followers from taking the body. It would have been more logical for the Jewish leaders to want his tomb unguarded, so his body could be taken easily by his followers. There was no logical reason for them to want to prevent his body from being taken away, so the story about guards at the tomb makes no sense to me. |
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It makes sense as a plot line in the Christian story, so they can claim that there is no way the disciples could have stolen the body.
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10-08-2007, 08:14 AM | #5 |
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What I love about the 'guards at the tomb' story is how it highlights the complete silliness of the oblivious disciples theme:
Apparently, Pilate knew Jesus claimed he would be resurrected, the Sanhedrin knew it, everyone knew it... ...except the disciples, who had been told this repeatedly for a week, but who wandered off in total despair when he died. They were the only ones who didn't remember that Jesus had claimed he would resurrect. Or so the story goes. Gotta laugh. |
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John 20.19, "For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise from the dead. The prophet called Daniel may have forgotten to include the resurrection of the Messiah in his so-called prohecies. And by the way, it is a useless exercise to steal a dead body, if the body will come back to life and this same person will be seen eating fish and bread and giving fishing instructions. And perhaps the guards were at the tomb not to guard the body, primarily, but to make sure to kill it everytime it tried to rise. |
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10-11-2007, 06:37 AM | #7 |
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You are assuming that they (the priests and pontius) believed it would rise from the dead. If they believed that they wouldn't have crucified him to begin with.
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The easy answer to the OP problem is of course that most all of the Bible is fantasy. No God, no J. Josephson, no crucifiction, no tomb etc.
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People venerate the corpses of their leaders all the time. I'm guessing that Jesus wasn't given a proper funeral from a Jewish perspective (why would the Romans grant that to a rabble rouser), so it makes good sense to post guards to prevent his followers from stealing his body and giving him a proper burial.
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I actually have several questions and no answers. 1 - Who said there were guards at the Tomb? Was it perhaps Mark (often thought to be the earliest Gospel)? Was it written in Luke (who says he wrote his account after much reasearch and also credited with writting Acts)? Was it John (the latest and often called the most developed Gospel)? Perhaps the detail of the guards appears in the writtings of Paul? 2 - Where ther guards set by the Romans? 3 - Were the guards set by the Jewish leaders? Just something to think about before looking for the "logic" behind the actions of (as someone suggested) characters in a story. |
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