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Old 09-28-2006, 10:56 PM   #1
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After countering all sorts of bullshit arguments in a "forum" for "America being founded on Christian principles," this was posted:

"The principle of three branches of government came from the Bible:
Isaiah 33:22
For the Lord is our judge, the Lord is our lawgiver, the Lord is our king; he will save us.
There are more like this on the site...Proving that the christian Bible help write the Constitution."

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7947/Verses.html

It's late and I'm quite exhausted. The several responses I've pondered would still allow him to retort with more b.s. pseudo-counters, and I would just like to provide a quick deathblow to this dung pile. So, if I could get a little help, it would certainly be appreciated.
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The principle of three branches of government came from the Bible:
Isaiah 33:22
For the Lord is our judge, the Lord is our lawgiver, the Lord is our king; he will save us.
There are more like this on the site...Proving that the christian Bible help write the Constitution."
Granted, I haven't read the Constitution in a while, but I don't remember it mentioning that having a king was a good idea.

Also, in his little quote, he apparently doesn't take note that it's the same entity (Lord) in each of the three branches. The Constitution does not say "Washington is our judge, Washington is our lawgiver, Washington is our king". At least not in the final draft.

Our founders' notion of "Separation of Powers" stands in stark contrast to the idea put forth in that Bible passage.
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Furthermore, it claims "We, the people" as its authority -- which is anything but theocratic.

It also forbids the granting of titles of nobility, something related to monarchy. In any case, the President is not a hereditary ruler for life.

And where are the words "democracy" and "republic" to be found in the Bible? Where are there regular elections or legislative assemblies in the Bible? Did the Senate get its name from the Bible?

All these ultimately came from pagan Greeks and Romans and Germanic tribes. So let's convert to Hellenismos and Religio Romana and Asatru. Give us those old-time religions!
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Might there be more arguments against this? Were the concepts discussed in the link possibly from earlier times, and not based on Christianity (or any other religion, for that matter)?
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