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Jobar · 12-29-2005, 08:59 PM

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The antiquity of the earth is a fact regardless of the interpretations of man.

Orthodox Freethinker, meet buckshot23. Buckshot, O_F.

You two really need to talk.

Vorkosigan · 12-29-2005, 09:03 PM

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Incidentally, I just noticed that the coursework I've been doing for the last couple of months has the initials FSM! Obviously touched by His Noodly Appendage. I must remember to eat lots of ramen before trying it again.

Heretic! Ramen is not real pasta! True FSM believers it only pasta imported from Italy! Made with real Durum wheat!

May the Noodly Appendage splash the Sauce of Enlightenment upon you!

Vorkosigan

Orthodox_Freethinker · 12-29-2005, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jobar

Orthodox Freethinker, meet buckshot23. Buckshot, O_F.

You two really need to talk.

Who is this buckshot you speak of?

mata leao · 12-29-2005, 09:08 PM

I am a creationist. This doesnt silence me one wit. Frankly, i dont care how God created anything, I see his creation. Scientists and engineers can make the trains run on time but they have yet to create matter or life. In my opinion, DNA is a complex code which intelligently directs life and is the product of an intelligent encoder/designer/god/god analog,etc. Funny though, who was that world famous atheist who just changed his mind and decided there is a God, because of his analysis of the DNA molecule? who was that again???

Orthodox_Freethinker · 12-29-2005, 09:43 PM

When I speak of 'creationism', I mean young earth creationism.

Chris Weimer · 12-29-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Selsaral

most christians I talk to (including some involved in lengthy threads in EoG right now) insist God has no intention of ever providing evidence of his existence.

To be fair, I don't think you can call 911 a Christian (unless you have someone else in mind).

Toto · 12-29-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mata leao

I am a creationist. This doesnt silence me one wit. Frankly, i dont care how God created anything, I see his creation. Scientists and engineers can make the trains run on time but they have yet to create matter or life. In my opinion, DNA is a complex code which intelligently directs life and is the product of an intelligent encoder/designer/god/god analog,etc. Funny though, who was that world famous atheist who just changed his mind and decided there is a God, because of his analysis of the DNA molecule? who was that again???

Anthony Few did not analyze the DNA molecule - he is not a biochemist. Form here:

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Flew's tentative, mechanistic Deism is not based on any logical proofs, but solely on physical, scientific evidence, or the lack thereof, and is therefore subject to change with more information--and he confesses he has not been able to keep up with the relevant literature in science and theology, which means we should no longer treat him as an expert on this subject (as Moreland apparently did).

John A. Broussard · 12-29-2005, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mata leao

I am a creationist. This doesnt silence me one wit. Frankly, i dont care how God created anything, I see his creation. Scientists and engineers can make the trains run on time but they have yet to create matter or life. In my opinion, DNA is a complex code which intelligently directs life and is the product of an intelligent encoder/designer/god/god analog,etc. Funny though, who was that world famous atheist who just changed his mind and decided there is a God, because of his analysis of the DNA molecule? who was that again???

A powerful argument for the existence of god! An atheist has decided there is a god, after all. Just imagine if two atheists changed their minds. Or a whole stadium full of atheists. Or all of them.

You must have a very tenuous hold on your belief if you think that the conversion of non-believers makes one whit of a difference so far as the existence or non-existence of your god is concerned.

John A. Broussard · 12-29-2005, 10:51 PM

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The point made is that it would be hard to explain the rapid growth of Christianity unless the Apostles had actually witnessed what they claimed to have witnessed.

It took almost three centuries for Christianity to become the dominant religion in the Roman Empire.

Islam spread from the Indus to Spain in a little over one generation.

It's hard to explain that except to acknowledge that Allah is the true god.

John A. Broussard · 12-29-2005, 10:56 PM

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I am afraid you are mistaken.

Contemporary Scholarship and the Historical Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ

Let's hear yourexplanation. Where's the historical evidence? Do we have the written testimony of even one, single person who witnessed the resurrection.

For that matter, since you regard Jesus as the Messiah prophesied in the OT, where in that document is there any mention of resurrection as a necessary characteristic of the Messiah?

I look forward to your answer.

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12-29-2005, 09:08 PM	#14
mata leao Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: tampa,florida Posts: 342	I am a creationist. This doesnt silence me one wit. Frankly, i dont care how God created anything, I see his creation. Scientists and engineers can make the trains run on time but they have yet to create matter or life. In my opinion, DNA is a complex code which intelligently directs life and is the product of an intelligent encoder/designer/god/god analog,etc. Funny though, who was that world famous atheist who just changed his mind and decided there is a God, because of his analysis of the DNA molecule? who was that again???

12-29-2005, 09:43 PM	#15
Orthodox_Freethinker Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,812	When I speak of 'creationism', I mean young earth creationism.

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