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Roland · 09-12-2009, 08:20 PM

Nothing out of that vilest of all books, Revelation?

brettpalmer · 09-13-2009, 08:16 AM

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It's not the all-or-nothing book that fundamentalists (atheist and Christian) say that we must either accept wholesale or burn.

No, no, of course not! "God-breathed," for sure, but sometimes God suffers from halitosis. We more "enlightened" Christians need to ignore the unpleasantries and approach the Bible as a buffet table. We pick and choose which parts we want to embrace and which we wish to ignore. Hey, afterall, God can have a bad day, too!

Clivedurdle · 10-01-2009, 12:56 PM

Where's the one about a woman touching a man's parts and having her hand cut off?

show_no_mercy · 10-01-2009, 01:36 PM

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If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives

The underlying reason why women "save themselves for marriage". They are property. Their virginity is either the property of the father (thus the fifty shekels) or the property of the husband. Just like using someone else's new toothbrush before they get to use it, if you use it then you have to buy it.

Probably why good Christian girls are called "dirty toothbrushes" if they have sex before marriage. Because they're property, just like a toothbrush.

Clivedurdle · 10-02-2009, 01:07 PM

This isn't the reason for our strange behaviour about new and second hand cars is it? A new car looses several thousand pounds in value as soon as it is driven off the forecourt.

James Brown · 10-02-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Clivedurdle

Where's the one about a woman touching a man's parts and having her hand cut off?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12

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11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.

Yes, it would be ever so much better if she lets her husband get beaten to death. The important thing is, Don't touch the junk.

Clivedurdle · 10-02-2009, 02:34 PM

Imagine that one on the side of buses or on Church noticeboards! Well it is the word of god innit!

storytime · 10-02-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesABrown

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Originally Posted by Clivedurdle

Where's the one about a woman touching a man's parts and having her hand cut off?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12

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11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.

Yes, it would be ever so much better if she lets her husband get beaten to death. The important thing is, Don't touch the junk.

If this is one of the 613 commandments of law, how do I convince the 'good-ol-boys' down at our local courthouse to display them alongside The Ten Commandments they've proudly and defiently framed in the hall? "This is a CHRISTIAN courthouse!" and damned be it anything else, rings out. I hope I'm never arrested for a traffic violation. It could become a terribly frightening experience.

Celsus · 10-03-2009, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Toto

Perhaps this is a good intro to Philip Davies latest essay, Are There Ethics in the Hebrew Bible? (Short answer: No.)

Thanks, that's a fantastic essay. Dawkins would do well to leave the Biblical crit to the Biblical scholars.

Solo · 10-03-2009, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Clivedurdle

Where's the one about a woman touching a man's parts and having her hand cut off?

When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand; your eye shall have no pity.

Deu 25:11-12

Good rule, if you ask me ! :huh:

Jiri

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09-12-2009, 08:20 PM	#11
Roland Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: California Posts: 748	Nothing out of that vilest of all books, Revelation?

10-01-2009, 12:56 PM	#13
Clivedurdle Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 16,024	Where's the one about a woman touching a man's parts and having her hand cut off?

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Clivedurdle Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 16,024	This isn't the reason for our strange behaviour about new and second hand cars is it? A new car looses several thousand pounds in value as soon as it is driven off the forecourt.

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Clivedurdle Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 16,024	Imagine that one on the side of buses or on Church noticeboards! Well it is the word of god innit!

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