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Why do you believe that it was moral for non-Hebrew slaves to on some occasions be involuntarily forced to be slaves for life, but not Hebrew slaves? Why do you suppose that there was a double standard of treatment for Hebrew slaves and non-Hebrew slaves? |
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2. The text says "servant" - I just proved it. Quote:
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Slavery meant a place to live, food, and someone to take care of you in the form of employment which often took the form of an apprenticeship. These are things it is likely that a parent could not provide as a former slave. Jubilee provided a reset and avoided the development of a slave caste. It makes perfect sense if you do not ignore the command to love the foreigners who reside among you remembering that you were once slaves in Egypt. All the beatings, raping, abusive behavior that you place over the text is not there. I am sure it occurred but it is not condoned in OT law. ~Steve |
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KJV - ye shall not rule one over another with rigour. NASB - you shall not rule with severity over one another. NIV - you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. The Amplified Bible - you shall not rule one over another with harshness (severity, oppression). Obviously, the writer believed that involuntary slavery of a Hebrew for life was severe, ruthless, and harsh, but not regarding involuntary slavery for life for a non-Hebrew. Quote:
Leviticus 45:26 KJV - And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour. NASB - You may even bequeath them to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your countrymen, the sons of Israel, you shall not rule with severity over one another. NIV - You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. The Amplified Bible - And you shall make them an inheritance for your children after you, to hold for a possession; of them shall you take your bondmen always, but over your brethren the Israelites you shall not rule one over another with harshness (severity, oppression). The texts clearly show that there were two standards of treatment, one standard for Hebrew slaves, and another standard for non-Hebrew slaves. There is no doubt that the writer of the verse considered forcing Hebrews to be slaves for life to be unacceptable, and that he considered forcing non-Hebrews to be slaves for life to be acceptable. The writer obviously considered involuntarily forcing a Hebrew slave to serve for life was rigour, KJV, severe, NASB, ruthless, NIV, and harsh, The Amplified Bible. On the other hand, he obviously approved of involuntarily forcing non-Hebrew slaves to be slaves for life. Please reply to my post #432. |
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As far as the injury goes - you tried to claim that the "runaway slave law" (Deu 23:15) was a result of an master mistreating or injuring a slave. The problem is that verse says nothing about injury; all it talks about is a runaway. The verse about the loss of a tooth or an eye applies to Hebrew servants, not slaves. Quote:
Now: if you think the KJV has mistranslated this word, prove it. Otherwise, you lose and we can all go home now. |
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"And if a man smite the eye of his BONDMAN, or the eye of his BONDWOMAN; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake." JPS the Jewish bible |
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