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Toto · 03-23-2010, 12:32 PM

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If she actually existed, the Queen of Sheba may have been African. Then again, she could have been Arab. While she may have been from Yemen, near today's city of Ma'rib, she probably was also active in Ethiopia, near the modern city of Aksum.

But so far, archaeologists have not found a tomb, palace or temple that can be definitively attributed to the prominent figure from the Hebrew Bible and the Quran.

"We know there was an empire that spanned about 1,000 years and had many queens and kings," said Michael Harrower, a postdoctoral fellow at UCLA's Cotsen Institute of Archaeology. "But we don't have archaeological evidence for a specific queen that we can say was Sheba. In fact, the biblical character may be a compilation or summary of history of the time."

Note that this reseacher does not feel compelled to declare this queen to be either historic or legendary.

more info

spin · 03-23-2010, 01:24 PM

I just wonder with the Egypt of Shoshenq I between Africa and Judea, how a client ruler could sidestep Egypt and go to another client ruler. If Arab, we should be looking at early Saba at the end of the Arabian peninsula. And the bible was clear that she was the queen of a place called Sheba.

spin

Clivedurdle · 03-23-2010, 01:27 PM

http://thesocialnetworkonline.com/fr...hs-and-heroes/

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I'd be very careful about historical kernels

is from this!

In Search of Myths and Heroes (or via: amazon.co.uk)

Woods goes for Saba as the most likely location

Toto · 03-23-2010, 02:30 PM

Michael Wood

rob117 · 03-23-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

Upcoming UCLA lecture

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If she actually existed, the Queen of Sheba may have been African. Then again, she could have been Arab. While she may have been from Yemen, near today's city of Ma'rib, she probably was also active in Ethiopia, near the modern city of Aksum.

But so far, archaeologists have not found a tomb, palace or temple that can be definitively attributed to the prominent figure from the Hebrew Bible and the Quran.

"We know there was an empire that spanned about 1,000 years and had many queens and kings," said Michael Harrower, a postdoctoral fellow at UCLA's Cotsen Institute of Archaeology. "But we don't have archaeological evidence for a specific queen that we can say was Sheba. In fact, the biblical character may be a compilation or summary of history of the time."

Note that this reseacher does not feel compelled to declare this queen to be either historic or legendary.

more info

It bugs me when they use words like "mysterious" to sell these lectures. There's no mystery. Sheba is Saba in Yemen. I don't get what's so mysterious about it :huh:

Oh that's right, it's because people have a preconceived notion that the Bible contains "mysteries."

spin · 03-23-2010, 03:22 PM

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Michael Wood

He might say brilliant things, but it doesn't help when there's a picture labeled "Temple of Hatshepsut" and the picture is actually the temple of Ramses III.

spin

(nitpicking)

ApostateAbe · 03-23-2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

Upcoming UCLA lecture

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If she actually existed, the Queen of Sheba may have been African. Then again, she could have been Arab. While she may have been from Yemen, near today's city of Ma'rib, she probably was also active in Ethiopia, near the modern city of Aksum.

But so far, archaeologists have not found a tomb, palace or temple that can be definitively attributed to the prominent figure from the Hebrew Bible and the Quran.

"We know there was an empire that spanned about 1,000 years and had many queens and kings," said Michael Harrower, a postdoctoral fellow at UCLA's Cotsen Institute of Archaeology. "But we don't have archaeological evidence for a specific queen that we can say was Sheba. In fact, the biblical character may be a compilation or summary of history of the time."

Note that this reseacher does not feel compelled to declare this queen to be either historic or legendary.

more info

Yep. The certainty of conclusions really should correspond to the strength of the evidence.

Toto · 03-24-2010, 11:11 AM

Paleojudaica on the Queen of Sheba in Yemen

David Deas · 03-24-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

Upcoming UCLA lecture

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If she actually existed, the Queen of Sheba may have been African. Then again, she could have been Arab. While she may have been from Yemen, near today's city of Ma'rib, she probably was also active in Ethiopia, near the modern city of Aksum.

But so far, archaeologists have not found a tomb, palace or temple that can be definitively attributed to the prominent figure from the Hebrew Bible and the Quran.

"We know there was an empire that spanned about 1,000 years and had many queens and kings," said Michael Harrower, a postdoctoral fellow at UCLA's Cotsen Institute of Archaeology. "But we don't have archaeological evidence for a specific queen that we can say was Sheba. In fact, the biblical character may be a compilation or summary of history of the time."

Note that this reseacher does not feel compelled to declare this queen to be either historic or legendary.

more info

As is typically the case.

I don't know why people feel like the bar gets set so unfairly high when it comes to the historicity of Jesus when compared to other figures. I think, in fact, the exact opposite is true. We have more hard evidence for John Henry than we do a historical Jesus but I don't see historians necessarily insisting on the steel driving man's existence.

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spin Contributor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nowhere Posts: 15,747	I just wonder with the Egypt of Shoshenq I between Africa and Judea, how a client ruler could sidestep Egypt and go to another client ruler. If Arab, we should be looking at early Saba at the end of the Arabian peninsula. And the bible was clear that she was the queen of a place called Sheba. spin

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Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Michael Wood

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