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stephan huller · 11-07-2011, 04:15 PM

I have always thought that the first three chapters formed one letter and chapters four to six was another. One of the reasons has to do with the use of 'Amen' at the end of chapter three. Has anyone else ever suggested this?

stephan huller · 11-07-2011, 08:28 PM

The closest thing I can find to support my claim that Eph 3:21 marked the original ending of the first letter is found in the use of long syllables:

http://books.google.com/books?id=A5M...page&q&f=false

Also there is this http://books.google.com/books?id=_UB...%20%22&f=false

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Although doxologies are usually found at the end of letters (see the notes on vv. 20-21), this is not always the case. As with the doxology in Rom 11:36, Eph 3:20-21 marks the end of the theological section of the letter.

Yet from memory Clement avoids mention of the doxology at Rom 11:36.

DCHindley · 11-08-2011, 01:26 PM

Markus Barth, Ephesians1-3: A New Translation withIntroduction and Commentary, ed. William Foxwell Albright and David Noel Freedman, vol. 34A, The Anchor Bible (New York: Doubleday, 1974), 7-8.

Skipster

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Originally Posted by stephan huller

The closest thing I can find to support my claim that Eph 3:21 marked the original ending of the first letter is found in the use of long syllables:

http://books.google.com/books?id=A5M...page&q&f=false

Also there is this http://books.google.com/books?id=_UB...%20%22&f=false

Quote:

Although doxologies are usually found at the end of letters (see the notes on vv. 20-21), this is not always the case. As with the doxology in Rom 11:36, Eph 3:20-21 marks the end of the theological section of the letter.

Yet from memory Clement avoids mention of the doxology at Rom 11:36.

stephan huller · 11-08-2011, 02:22 PM

Thanks so much Herr Skipster

Gorit Maqueda · 11-09-2011, 09:38 AM

Robert M. Price, "The Pre-Nicene New Testament", p.440:
"It seems to me that what we have in chapters 4-6 is a second letter, a Catholic rejoinder of the Marcionite Laodiceans..."

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stephan huller Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 9,337	Has Anyone Ever Suggested that the Letter to the Ephesians Was Really Two Letters? I have always thought that the first three chapters formed one letter and chapters four to six was another. One of the reasons has to do with the use of 'Amen' at the end of chapter three. Has anyone else ever suggested this?

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11-08-2011, 02:22 PM	#4
stephan huller Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 9,337	Thanks so much Herr Skipster

11-09-2011, 09:38 AM	#5
Gorit Maqueda Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Valdebernardo Posts: 73	Robert M. Price, "The Pre-Nicene New Testament", p.440: "It seems to me that what we have in chapters 4-6 is a second letter, a Catholic rejoinder of the Marcionite Laodiceans..."

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