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Old 05-20-2005, 06:24 AM   #11
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These "petty differences" are:
The "calendar day" interpretation
The "day-age" interpretation
The "framework" interpretation
The "analogical days" interpretation
The "intermittent day" interpretation
The "gap"(or "reconstitution") interpretation
The "days of revelation" interpretation
The "days of divine fiat" interpretation
The "focus on Palestine" interpretation
The "Expanding time" interpretation
None of which are in the bible, but are derived from.

How many times do I have to say it, interpretations are irrelevant. Sorry - no show here, I'm just not dumb enough to take the interpretation bait. I have shown conclusively that what I said still holds true.

God's word doesn't change.
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Sven, quote where God says in the bible "the earth is six thousand years old" please.

Hence I think you either cannot grasp what I am saying, or are ignoring my posts by not addressing it.

You miss the basic logical position I am holding.

You say I cannot know if my interpretation of the bible is correct. But I'm saying I don't interpret it. It's simply slothful induction for you to not recognize that 95% of the bible is easily understood, as to what it is saying of itself. Don't make me get the hand puppets out Sven;

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth".

Sven, my position is that I trust what God says, and my position is that he created the heaven and the earth. Please show my intepretation, like you failed to previously.

You didn't address my post, the meat of it. I'll take that to be your white flag.
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Old 05-20-2005, 06:32 AM   #13
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None of which are in the bible, but are derived from.

How many times do I have to say it, interpretations are irrelevant. Sorry - no show here, I'm just not dumb enough to take the interpretation bait. I have shown conclusively that what I said still holds true.

God's word doesn't change.
You do realize that:

1) Your interpretation is just another subjective look at things; and

2) Translations have rendered radically different wordings of different passages in the bible...hell, they don't even all have the same number of books :huh:
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How many times do I have to say it, interpretations are irrelevant.
Then yours (the "literal interpretation" - the thing you don't seem to get, taking everything literal is also an interpretation) is also irrelevant. *shrug*

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Let me quote Duck! again - you are still in the business of ignoring posts:

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You're probably aware that different sects of Christianity have different Bibles? The Catholic Bible and the Protestant Bible have different books in them, and the Catholics have a slightly different set of ten commandments in there's. There are also numerous different translations that appear from time to time. So in a very real sense, the Bible has changed. But that's not a topic for this forum.
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Sven, quote where God says in the bible "the earth is six thousand years old" please.
Look up the word "implicitely" in a dictionary.

It doesn't say this directly - but as soon as you fix a date on the Exodus (usually 1300 BC), one can add up the genealogies and get a date for the creation of Adam. Add 6 days and you get about 6000 years.

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Hence I think you either cannot grasp what I am saying, or are ignoring my posts by not addressing it.
I think you need to learn more about science and your religion before making such claims.

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You miss the basic logical position I am holding.
Umm, no, you miss that there's no logic in your position.

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You say I cannot know if my interpretation of the bible is correct. But I'm saying I don't interpret it.
Taking everything literal is an interpretation.

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Sven, my position is that I trust what God says
And my position is that you can not know what god says by reading the bible. Only possibility to know what god says is speaking with him directly.

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You didn't address my post, the meat of it. I'll take that to be your white flag.
:huh:
And you owe me an irony meter.
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It doesn't say directly - but as soon as you fix a date on the Exodus (usually 1300 BC), one can add up the genealogies and get a date for the creation of Adam. Add 6 days and you get about 6000 years.
I tried to google for a link and found the original dating by Bishop Ussher. Strangely, he uses an entirely different argument, one which I don't even understand. Up to now, I thought he argued using the genealogies, as outlined above. :huh:
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Split from here. Heading to BC&H.
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Irrelevant. Another repetition of previous posts, I'm done with you.
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I assure you Roland, this garbage does not belong in BC&H.
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Sven, quote where God says in the bible "the earth is six thousand years old" please.

Hence I think you either cannot grasp what I am saying, or are ignoring my posts by not addressing it.

You miss the basic logical position I am holding.

You say I cannot know if my interpretation of the bible is correct. But I'm saying I don't interpret it. It's simply slothful induction for you to not recognize that 95% of the bible is easily understood, as to what it is saying of itself. Don't make me get the hand puppets out Sven;

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth".

Sven, my position is that I trust what God says, and my position is that he created the heaven and the earth. Please show my intepretation, like you failed to previously.

You didn't address my post, the meat of it. I'll take that to be your white flag.
Simple question for you, if the bible is right and is the only path to salvation: why is the bible only revealed to such a tiny percentage of the world's population? When the people of the mid-east got the bible in 300 AD, why wasn't it revealed to the Chinese or to people living in North-American's? Does god not love those people? Their are tribes in Africa that had no outside contact with missioniaries until the early 20th century: why were they condmened to damnation. Does god like one part of the world better than another??
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