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laughing dog · 07-02-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EsoCyn

Apologist, per chance do you post at either the American Nihilist Underground Society or the Metal Archives boards?

I'm sorry, but that is just hilarious, that acronym for the American Nihilist Underground Society is ANUS. Thanks, you've made my day Esocyn.

Apologist · 07-02-2006, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Negasta

Bull-Fucking-Shit!!! I cannot believe anybody who lives in civilized society can believe such utter crap. Fascism has always brought out some of the greatest evil and barbarism in humanity and was resonsible for the most destructive war in human history.

Such as? You can't count the Holocaust, namely because that wasn't exclusive to Fascism. That occured under a National Socialist regime.

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Fascism gives no freedom at all

Freedom from hunger.
Freedom from social discord.
Freedom from the fear of being overrun by enemies.
Freedom from a society that advocates sin.
Freedom from uncertainty.

Fascism is order. In obedience, there is freedom. Through submission, there is reward. Long live death, for in death to oneself, there is life abundant.

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if you disagree with any of their doctrines, you get shovled into the ovens along with the Jews you mentioned.

Absolutely, treason is to be punished either by imprisonment, death, or exile.

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Fuck you because I'm gay

No thank you. I don't swing that way. :huh:

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which means you hate me without even knowing me

Not really. I hold you to the same dignity and respect as any other human individual. You are made in the image and likeness of God. So you are gay? So what? You face temptation to sin just like the rest of us. God would impose no temptation on you that is unconquerable. You, like everyone else, are called to holiness. In your case, you can reach extraordinary holiness through celibacy. Consider it a blessing rather than a curse.

Nice Squirrel · 07-02-2006, 08:27 PM

I thought this thread was announcing Father Couglin's ressurection.

RATS!

EsoCyn · 07-02-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by laughing dog

I'm sorry, but that is just hilarious, that acronym for the American Nihilist Underground Society is ANUS. Thanks, you've made my day Esocyn.

ANUS are a rather influential (on the internet) group of nazi trolls. Like, one or two have a semi-successfull career in something -- everyone else are just a bunch of angsty pseudo-intellectuals who were probably picked on.

Apologist · 07-02-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Yggdrasill

If I want to watch porn, no one should stop me, if I want to criticise anything, no one should stop me, if I want to worship the invisible pink unicorn or the flying spaghetti monster, no one should stop me. Understand?

That's not freedom. That's liscense.

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And the resistance wouldn't have ended if Britain had been conquered, freedom is non-negotiable for many many people.

It would have ended if Britain would have been conquered because it would have been a bunch of resisters against the best army in the world. :Cheeky:

Apologist · 07-02-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FatherMithras

And freedom is NOTHING like the ability to "tend to what's best". Since nothing is objectively "best"

I disagree.

laughing dog · 07-02-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Apologist

Such as? You can't count the Holocaust, namely because that wasn't exclusive to Fascism. That occured under a National Socialist regime.

Yes we can. They went along willingly.

Apologist · 07-02-2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by laughing dog

Yes we can. They went along willingly.

If I recall correctly, Mussolini and Hirohito, and that Spanish guy weren't tossing Jews into ovens. Hitler was.

Nice Squirrel · 07-02-2006, 08:35 PM

There is a case to be made that National Socialism was not Facism, much like Stalinism is not Communism.

The case however was lost by a KAOS agent. :Cheeky:

Yggdrasill · 07-02-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Apologist

That's not freedom. That's liscense.

Redefine freedom however you wish, that doesn't change how people in general define it.

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It would have ended if Britain would have been conquered because it would have been a bunch of resisters against the best army in the world. :Cheeky:

Like Vietnam? Like Iraq? Like Israel/Palestine?

Armies will never be able to engage a diffuse internal threat. It's a simple military fact.

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07-02-2006, 08:27 PM	#23
Nice Squirrel Contributor Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Death Panel District 9 Posts: 20,921	I thought this thread was announcing Father Couglin's ressurection. RATS!

07-02-2006, 08:35 PM	#29
Nice Squirrel Contributor Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Death Panel District 9 Posts: 20,921	There is a case to be made that National Socialism was not Facism, much like Stalinism is not Communism. The case however was lost by a KAOS agent. :Cheeky:

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