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Old 05-26-2007, 02:31 PM   #1
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Bible: The earth has foundations, it can't be moved.

Apologist: What the bible means is that the earth doesn't move except in the exact way that it does move. You will never find the earth outside the region of space occupied by the earth.
I can give you a better explanation if you want:
The message of the writer, is that the world is so immense that one person cannot shake it. We have all had that sense before. He is just in awe of how small he is in the context of the universe.

The psalms were written as songs. They were expressions of gratefulness and frustration, and pleas for God's assistance. The author's intent was poetic and inspirational, not scientific.
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I can give you a better explanation if you want:
The message of the writer, is that the world is so immense that one person cannot shake it. We have all had that sense before. He is just in awe of how small he is in the context of the universe.

The psalms were written as songs. They were expressions of gratefulness and frustration, and pleas for God's assistance. The author's intent was poetic and inspirational, not scientific.
That's really the only usable apologetic left. I mean if you look at the stuff literally, then the Earth was flat. I don't even know that it was another body of the universe. It was the Earth and up there was the Sky. Now, I tend to think it was believed in this manner, but it may very well have just been a metaphorical song, people just weren't overly concerned about it and left it to God.
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“I tend to think it was believed in this manner, but it may very well have just been a metaphorical song, people just weren't overly concerned about it and left it to God.”

Of course, and if someone refers to North South East West as the ‘four corners’ so what? People forget that literalist fundamentalists only appeared in the past couple of hundred years, in old days no one really cared about if this or that ‘actually happened’ any more than they complained that Aesop’s fables contained talking animals, they knew the point the story was trying to convey. “hey Aesop, that story is like, bogus man, foxes don’t talk”
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That's some serious necromancy.
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Does that make me undead?
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That's really the only usable apologetic left. I mean if you look at the stuff literally, then the Earth was flat. I don't even know that it was another body of the universe. It was the Earth and up there was the Sky. Now, I tend to think it was believed in this manner, but it may very well have just been a metaphorical song, people just weren't overly concerned about it and left it to God.
Don't you have any counter-apologetic argument?
We should evaluate this argument further, if the bible writers did believe in a flat earth that would shake the christian foundations
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The psalms were written as songs. They were expressions of gratefulness and frustration, and pleas for God's assistance. The author's intent was poetic and inspirational, not scientific.
Precisely. The Bible is not a science book.
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