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Old 09-24-2007, 02:54 PM   #1
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Default Archaeological evidence for early monotheism?

In a recent thread on Documentary Hypothesis, afdave claimed that recent archaeological evidence showed that monotheism was an older practice than polytheism. His point was that this is consistent with the Biblical account of God revealing himself to early man, and that polytheism is a corruption of monotheism. Also that would contradict the idea in modern scholarship that polytheism came first and that monotheism gradually developed from it.

However, afdave neither elaborated nor offered any supporting sources. So, how about it, afdave, care to elaborate?
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Did God Have a Wife? (or via: amazon.co.uk) shines new light on the presence and influence of women’s cults in early Israel and their implications for our understanding of Israel’s official “Book religion.” Dever pays particular attention to the goddess Asherah, reviled by the authors of the Hebrew Bible as a foreign deity but, in the view of many modern scholars, popularly envisioned in early Israel as the consort of biblical Yahweh. His work also gives new prominence to women as the custodians of Israel’s folk religion.

Professor Dever would disagree with Afdave's assertion. In fact, he makes a case for polytheism existing well into the historical period (after writing became common) of Judaean history.
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Professor Dever would disagree with Afdave's assertion. In fact, he makes a case for polytheism existing well into the historical period (after writing became common) of Judaean history.
Yeah, I know about these.
That's why I was intrigued by afdave's claim that archeology showed evidence of monotheism predating polytheism. So my question, primarily for him (and others who might have heard similar claims before) is what archaeologists make these claims and also which finds they are using to support them.

Hmm, I guess I better PM afdave to make sure he is aware of this thread.
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In a recent thread on Documentary Hypothesis, afdave claimed that recent archaeological evidence showed that monotheism was an older practice than polytheism. His point was that this is consistent with the Biblical account of God revealing himself to early man, and that polytheism is a corruption of monotheism. Also that would contradict the idea in modern scholarship that polytheism came first and that monotheism gradually developed from it.

However, afdave neither elaborated nor offered any supporting sources. So, how about it, afdave, care to elaborate?
Even if monotheism is older than polytheism, afdave still has Jews and Muslims to deal with. In addition, even if monothesim is older than poloytheism, that does not mean that the God of the Bible exists. Further, I doubt that the first humans left any archaeological evidence at all regarding their religious beliefs.
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That should be entertaining.

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I suspect that it was pulled out of the usual orifice. But, even if it turned out to be true for some religions, it definitely isn't true for Judaism.

...Would this "archaeological evidence" for really old monotheism be the stuff that was formerly "lost forever" under the 1-mile-thick (or possibly 2-miles-thick) "Flood deposit"? I hope Dave has photos of this 1-mile (or 2-mile) deep archaeologist's trench.
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In a recent thread on Documentary Hypothesis, afdave claimed that recent archaeological evidence showed that monotheism was an older practice than polytheism. His point was that this is consistent with the Biblical account of God revealing himself to early man, and that polytheism is a corruption of monotheism. Also that would contradict the idea in modern scholarship that polytheism came first and that monotheism gradually developed from it.

However, afdave neither elaborated nor offered any supporting sources. So, how about it, afdave, care to elaborate?
If God is a cave bear, a boar or a leopard, then Dave might be right. All three of these had widely dispersed cults in prehistoric times, as is shown by ample archaeological evidence.
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Christianity is not monotheistic, it's polytheistic no matter what the followers says. It tries tio shoehorn 3 different gods into one. It has a devil which is a god with equal or almost equal abilities as god since god does not seem to be able to get rid of the devil.

Calling christianity monotheistic is like calling a square a circle.
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Christianity is not monotheistic, it's polytheistic no matter what the followers says. It tries tio shoehorn 3 different gods into one. It has a devil which is a god with equal or almost equal abilities as god since god does not seem to be able to get rid of the devil.

Calling christianity monotheistic is like calling a square a circle.
Well, there are different versions, of course. The one I grew up with really didn't have a "Devil" - or Satan. That was all sort of metaphorical.

But then, of course, there are versions where the Virgin Mary - and countless saints - seem to be at least as much Gods and Goddesses as the minor deities in the Greek/Roman pantheon.

I have a theory about that, involving the compatibility of consumption of, with the continued possession of, cake.
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Here's Petrie and Langdon on record stating that monotheism was the earliest form of religion in Egypt ... Petrie and Langdon: Early Egyptians were monotheists

Here's evidence from Frankfort for original monotheism in Sumer ...
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Wiseman also notes that Dr. H.H. Frankfort reported in his Third Preliminary Report on the Excavations at Tell Asmat (Eshunna) that, “… we discover that the representation on cylinder seals, which are usually connected with various gods, can all be fitted in to form a consistent picture in which a single god worshipped in this temple forms the central figure. It seems, therefore, that at this early period his various aspects were not considered separate deities in the Sumero-Akkadian pantheon.” This shows that polytheism developed after monotheism, not the other way around as is often imagined.
http://afdave.wordpress.com/2006/09/...-dawn-of-time/
This all makes sense if you understand that ...

ALL CIVILIZATIONS UNEARTHED BY THE LAST 100+ YEARS OF ARCHAEOLOGY ARE POST-FLOOD.

And of course the "Great Father" of all the nations is Noah who was a monotheist. But as time went on and the population grew, various groups rejected their original monotheism and descended into degrading polytheistic cults. The birth of the Hebrew nation was a definite action by God to bring people BACK to monotheism, namely a worship of the One True Creator God.

Note that Egypt DID NOT exist prior to the Flood. The conventional chronology is WRONG as showed by David Rohl. China also did not exist as a nation prior to the Flood and they were originally monotheistic as shown by the recent scholarly work by Dr. Ginger Tong Chock shows.
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