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lpetrich · 05-11-2009, 11:19 AM

In another messageboard, I once created a poll on the nature of Jesus Christ, and I entered the traditional Xian position as "God-man hybrid".

Some people complained that's not quite what traditional Xian theology states about him, but it seemed to me that those complaints are based on an excessively narrow use of the word "hybrid".

But being "fully God and fully man" seems like having a hybrid nature to me, as does having God as his biological father and a woman as his biological mother.

I think that those complainers were reacting to the word "hybrid", even though I chose that word rather than "half-breed" or "mongrel" or "mutt" because it seemed like the most dignified choice of words.

Interestingly, there's a Xian site that embraces that word: The hybrid nature of our Lord Jesus Christ

Clivedurdle · 05-11-2009, 11:38 AM

Fabulous creatures in the Bible

back soon with more links!

rlogan · 05-11-2009, 11:47 AM

the trinity excites such marvelous gesticulations. Logically ridiculous, and any description of it lacking sufficient deference to God is held in contempt.

Logically, God is either one thing or all things. If he can choose to be three things that are all the same thing then it follows he can be all things and still be one thing.

I think recently he has chosen to appear on some pieces of toast, in fact.

show_no_mercy · 05-11-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rlogan

I think recently he has chosen to appear on some pieces of toast, in fact.

It's both fully god and fully toast!

Toto · 05-11-2009, 01:14 PM

So that's what the H stands for in Jesus H Christ!

Clivedurdle · 05-11-2009, 01:50 PM

http://www.freeratio.org/showthread.php?t=189955

Frankenstein's Monster

And somewhere there is something about model jesi.

mountainman · 05-11-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by show_no_mercy

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlogan

I think recently he has chosen to appear on some pieces of toast, in fact.

It's both fully god and fully toast!

The terms homoiousios and homoousios mean
"similar essence" and "same essence."

They were part of a controversy in Christianity
during the 4th century when people disagreed over
the nature of God and his relationship to Toast.

According to those who adopted homoiousios,
Toast was not the same as God but simply had
a "similar essence." eg: Arius of Alexandria

According to those who argued for homoousios,
the doctrine which was eventually adopted as orthodoxy,
Toast and God had the exact same essence
and one was not permitted to differentiate any
further, since this "critical questioning of Socrates
was a menace to the state".

Despite excessive anachronism my vote
is that the H stands for Hobbit.

Clivedurdle · 05-14-2009, 09:08 AM

Fully god and fully man is xian math : 1+1=1!

There was a UK advert for cadbury's milk chocolate - " a glass and a half in every bar" so is the xian slogan really an early advertising slogan? Our god is better than yours - its fully god and fully man!

Actually, maybe we could improve it further - a Ferrari god? Give the man bit some better brakes or a bigger...

A new religion based on "go to work on an egg"?

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EARLY DAYS OF ADVERTISING

The 1st ads were vocal; i.e. street cries used by peddlers hawking their wares. Greeks advertised by shouting announcements of the sale of cattle and slaves. Printed advertisements also developed early. A 3,000-year-old ad from Thebes calls for the recovery of a slave: "... For his return to the shop of Hapu the Weaver, where the best cloth is woven to your desires, a whole gold coin is offered...."

In Rome, signs were pasted up proclaiming circuses and gladiator matches. Examples of poster advertising have also been found in Pompeii and Carthage.

http://www.trivia-library.com/a/hist...early-days.htm

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History of Advertising

Defining the wide range of advertising in not easy, however, it can be summed up as the process through which people are made aware of the existence of certain products and services. The advertiser gains as through this kind of promotion, the sale as well as acknowledgement and recognition of the products and services turns out to successful on most instances. The advantages of advertising are not something that is known to the people in the modern world, or were known to those who lived one or two centuries ago. In reality, traces of advertising can be seen to have existed even thousands of years back, when the Arabians, the great Romans and Greeks too made use of such propaganda to fulfill their desires of reaching out to the public. Therefore it can be said, that history of advertising dates back to some of the oldest civilizations in the world and gradually developed itself and its techniques through the years to reach a point in the 21st century, where life and business without advertisements and effects of advertising is unthinkable. Read on to know more about the history of advertising.

http://www.advertisingxl.com/history/

I would definitely add research into advertising into the development of religions - are hymns the equivalent of us humming a tune from an advert?

05-11-2009, 11:19 AM	#1
lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	Jesus Hybrid Christ? In another messageboard, I once created a poll on the nature of Jesus Christ, and I entered the traditional Xian position as "God-man hybrid". Some people complained that's not quite what traditional Xian theology states about him, but it seemed to me that those complaints are based on an excessively narrow use of the word "hybrid". But being "fully God and fully man" seems like having a hybrid nature to me, as does having God as his biological father and a woman as his biological mother. I think that those complainers were reacting to the word "hybrid", even though I chose that word rather than "half-breed" or "mongrel" or "mutt" because it seemed like the most dignified choice of words. Interestingly, there's a Xian site that embraces that word: The hybrid nature of our Lord Jesus Christ

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Clivedurdle Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 16,024	Fabulous creatures in the Bible back soon with more links!

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rlogan Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Alaska Posts: 9,159	the trinity excites such marvelous gesticulations. Logically ridiculous, and any description of it lacking sufficient deference to God is held in contempt. Logically, God is either one thing or all things. If he can choose to be three things that are all the same thing then it follows he can be all things and still be one thing. I think recently he has chosen to appear on some pieces of toast, in fact.

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Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	So that's what the H stands for in Jesus H Christ!

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Clivedurdle Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 16,024	http://www.freeratio.org/showthread.php?t=189955 Frankenstein's Monster And somewhere there is something about model jesi.

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