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Old 07-14-2009, 11:52 AM   #1
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I read this on wikipedia:

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He [Philo of Alexandria] arrived during Passover and observed their customs, and how some of them kept the holy week of Passover (only) after a postponement of it, but others by eating every other day – though others, indeed, ate each evening.

– Epiphanius of Salamis, Panarion 29.5.1
I can't find an online version of Panarion so I can't read the context. Is Epiphanius really talking about Philo of Alexandria, and that he observed the customs of some of the early Christians?
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It's available on GoogleBooks. The passage in question refers to the Essenes (Ep. calls them "Jessaeans.")
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Epiphanius thought that the Essenes described by Philo were actually early Christians. I guess he assumed that Philo was confused by the "fact" that early Christians once used to call themselves "Jesseans."

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I read this on wikipedia:

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He [Philo of Alexandria] arrived during Passover and observed their customs, and how some of them kept the holy week of Passover (only) after a postponement of it, but others by eating every other day – though others, indeed, ate each evening.

– Epiphanius of Salamis, Panarion 29.5.1
I can't find an online version of Panarion so I can't read the context. Is Epiphanius really talking about Philo of Alexandria, and that he observed the customs of some of the early Christians?
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Is Epiphanius really talking about Philo of Alexandria, and that he observed the customs of some of the early Christians?
Epiphanius of Salamis fortifies the faithful against current heresies.
He writes at an epoch were Christianity had many heretics.
These heretics had to be systematically classified.
Our man Epiphanius of Salamis stepped forward
on behalf of the orthodox christian football team.
The First Seven Heresies in the Index of Eighty

In his introductory prelude, in speaking of the "sects" or "heresies" Epiphanius notes:
"For it was about these four sects ("heresies") that the apostle clearly said in reproof,
"In Christ Jesus there is neither Barbarian, Scythian, Hellene nor Jew, but a new creation" [5] Col 3:11

Heresy 1 of 80 - Against Barbarism
Heresy 2 of 80 - Against Scythianism
Heresy 3 of 80 - Against Hellenism
Heresy 4 of 80 - Against Judaism
Heresy 5 of 80 - Against Stoics
Heresy 6 of 80 - Against Platonists
Heresy 7 of 80 - Against Pythagoreans
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It's available on GoogleBooks. The passage in question refers to the Essenes (Ep. calls them "Jessaeans.")
Thanks for this.

The page in question is at philo in panarion with helpful footnotes.

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Hi Folks,

First post in a little while, greetings. I put together a little bibliography on the topic of Philo and possible Christian connections and how this was seen by the church writers. The emphasis is on any possible actual connections, not the larger one of doctrinal ins and outs.

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BOOKS

Ecclesiastical researches; or, Philo and Josephus proved to be historians and apologist of Christ, of his Followers, and of the Gospel by John Jones (1812)
http://books.google.com/books?id=rcoCAAAAQAAJ

The judgement of the ancient Jewish church against the Unitarians in the Controversy of the Holy Trinity and the Divinity of Our Blessed Saviour ...- Pierre Allix (1821)
http://books.google.com/books?id=BtsRAAAAIAAJ

Philo in early Christian literature: a survey By David T. Runia (1993)
http://books.google.com/books?id=SPvsph6TNYAC

Philo and the church fathers: a collection of papers By David T. Runia (1995)
http://books.google.com/books?id=3JyM1kul504C

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WEB-AVAILABLE ARTICLES

David T. Runia, "References to Philo from Josephus up to 1000 AD," Studia Philonica 6 (1994): 111-121 ©
http://www.torreys.org/bible/instrumenta.htm

Orthodoxy and Heresy in Earliest Christianity by Walter Bauer [1934]
http://jewishchristianlit.com//Resou...er/bauer02.htm

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EARLY WRITINGS

Philo, Every Good Man is Free (Quod Omnis Probus Liber Sit) - Yonge extract
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rak//courses/999/Essenes.htm

Eusebius - Philo's Account of the Ascetics of Egypt.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf...vii.xviii.html

The Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis, Volume 0 (p. 115) - Epiphanius
http://books.google.com/books?id=K22xQJ

Photius - Bibliotheca or Myriobiloni (Philo --> 103, 104, 105)
http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/ph...ibliotheca.htm

[Philo Judaeus, Censure of Gaius and Censure of Flaccus] - Photius quote
http://www.freeratio.org//showthread...70#post3202770

(Afterwich, there was a bit of discussion on that last post with Ben and myself.)

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Shalom,
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