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spin · 12-16-2007, 06:24 AM

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More non sequiturs? Too bad.

I don't follow you.

You, like aa5874, shift from the narrative world to the real world, making statements about one, hoping to have relevance on the other.

spin

spin · 12-16-2007, 06:41 AM

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The text says that Jesus was entombed and was there for two days.

Your statement appears to be in error.
Why do you mis-represent the text?

This is the pot looking for a kettle.

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According to all the authors, Jesus was placed in a tomb, but he was never seen when visited on the first day of the week. There is no account of Jesus between putting him in the tomb and the visit.

Perhaps you overlooked the fact that according to the gospel there were guards at the tomb from the time the body was inhumed to the time on Sunday morning when the tomb was reopened by act of an angel. The guards were in control of the situation until then.

I have no interest in your beliefs. We are dealing with literature not reality and we have to use the rules of that narrative world. This is difficult for you when you misrepresent the text and shift from narrative to real world. But again, I feel I've held your hand long enough on this. I've attempted to explain my gripes with your procedures. You give no inkling of going beyond, so I guess I should bow out, if you desire to continue as you have. :wave:

spin

aa5874 · 12-16-2007, 07:12 AM

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Your statement appears to be in error.
Why do you mis-represent the text?

This is the pot looking for a kettle.

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Originally Posted by aa5874

According to all the authors, Jesus was placed in a tomb, but he was never seen when visited on the first day of the week. There is no account of Jesus between putting him in the tomb and the visit.

Perhaps you overlooked the fact that according to the gospel there were guards at the tomb from the time the body was inhumed to the time on Sunday morning when the tomb was reopened by act of an angel. The guards were in control of the situation until then.

I have no interest in your beliefs. We are dealing with literature not reality and we have to use the rules of that narrative world. This is difficult for you when you misrepresent the text and shift from narrative to real world. But again, I feel I've held your hand long enough on this. I've attempted to explain my gripes with your procedures. You give no inkling of going beyond, so I guess I should bow out, if you desire to continue as you have. :wave:

spin

Why do you mis-represent yourself? You have not held my hand in anyway, and I don't want you to hold my hand. Please bow out.

QuestionMark · 12-16-2007, 09:54 AM

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I don't follow you.

You, like aa5874, shift from the narrative world to the real world, making statements about one, hoping to have relevance on the other.

spin

The narrative mentions angels a lot and unicorn sometimes.

We all know about unicorns.

What are angels in the narrative?

QM?

makerowner · 12-16-2007, 09:56 AM

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You, like aa5874, shift from the narrative world to the real world, making statements about one, hoping to have relevance on the other.

spin

The narrative mentions angels a lot and unicorn sometimes.

We all know about unicorns.

What are angels in the narrative?

QM?

Fiction. That doesn't mean they're not in the narrative though.

QuestionMark · 12-16-2007, 10:08 AM

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The narrative mentions angels a lot and unicorn sometimes.

We all know about unicorns.

What are angels in the narrative?

QM?

Fiction. That doesn't mean they're not in the narrative though.

Were angels fiction in the narrative? Yes or no?

QM?

makerowner · 12-16-2007, 10:12 AM

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Fiction. That doesn't mean they're not in the narrative though.

Were angels fiction in the narrative? Yes or no?

QM?

The narrative is a work of historical fiction. It contains some truth and some fiction. Within the narrative, the angels are real. Obviously, they are fiction outside of it.

QuestionMark · 12-16-2007, 10:39 AM

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Were angels fiction in the narrative? Yes or no?

QM?

The narrative is a work of historical fiction. It contains some truth and some fiction. Within the narrative, the angels are real. Obviously, they are fiction outside of it.

In the narrative were the authors writing 'angels' with the understanding that the average person could understand the fiction?

Today, most American say that they believe in angels!

The distinction between a label word and a fictional word is seminal to rational thinking.

QM?

makerowner · 12-16-2007, 10:44 AM

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The narrative is a work of historical fiction. It contains some truth and some fiction. Within the narrative, the angels are real. Obviously, they are fiction outside of it.

In the narrative were the authors writing 'angels' with the understanding that the average person could understand the fiction?

Today, most American say that they believe in angels!

The distinction between a label word and a fictional word is seminal to rational thinking.

QM?

Most people at the time believed in angels. I don't really know what point you're trying to get at here.

QuestionMark · 12-16-2007, 12:30 PM

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In the narrative were the authors writing 'angels' with the understanding that the average person could understand the fiction?

Today, most American say that they believe in angels!

The distinction between a label word and a fictional word is seminal to rational thinking.

QM?

Most people at the time believed in angels. I don't really know what point you're trying to get at here.

The point is the use and the misuse of words.

Words are sounds or images.

Most folks then and now do not understand what a word it.

To most folks, if you can say it, it exists.

UFO's, angels, heaven, God, hell, Jesus, devil, Sasquatch, etc.

QM?

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