Patriarch Verlch

Have you ever seen somebody demon possessed, I have, a girl talking in a man's voice.

What about those that channel spirits? Or autonomic writing, channeling and then writing things not of your own.

I've seen somebody autonomic write, it was scary as thought she was in a trance.

What is going to stop Satan from destroying confidence in God?

K

You want to talk scary? What about vampires and werewolves. That's scary. Have you ever seen someone who'd been attacked by a werewolf? It's not pretty. And vampires - don't get me started. How can you worry about Satan destroying confidence in God when you could become a member of the undead before tomorrow?

Sorry for the digression. It's just so frustrating to wade through 5 pages looking for "Extra Biblical Evidence For Jesus" as promised in the subject, only to find talk about Satan manipulating history to undermine confidence in God.

Patriarch Verlch

Did the Jews get rescued from Egypt? Is that why they celebrate the Passover? When Moses parted the Red Sea. I mean come on, just because they celebrate it ever year, does that mean it really happened?

By faith we Christians do things, and speaking of which it takes more faith to believe in what you do. Life arising out of primordial soup.

Remember the mocked Noah for 125 years, laughed at him and jeered him, until the water came and swept them away. Christians suffer the same ridicule simply standing up for what they believe. Which is a shame.

It is extra biblical that Pilate washed his hands of the deed.

Here is a good song, sympathy for the Devil Rolling Stones.

http://www.lyrics007.com/The%20Rolli...%20Lyrics.html

cjack

Do I need to believe in Mein Kampf in order to use it to disprove white supremacy?

Do I need to believe Dianetics in order to disprove Scientology?

Do I need to believe the Quran in order to disprove Islam?

You get the idea...


Not really. A global flood like the one described in the Bible is quite impossible.

What you're missing here is the possibility that the source for the global flood myth has some rather mundane, non-wrath-O-god origins, and there's nothing wrong with accepting that some of the stories in the Bible might be metaphors based upon poorly-remembered oral traditions.

Biff the unclean

Please stop the bald faced bull shitting, it’s an insult to everyone’s intelligence. One gospel says Jesus went to the desert and starved another says he went to a party and kicked back a few. That’s called a contradiction, and it shows the Jesus story is fiction. Another thing that shows it’s fiction is that the water into wine at a wedding story was stolen from one of the major feast days of Dionysus.

What’s the matter Tex? Did you think you could get away with bullshitting me? It’s not going to happen. Every time you pull a claim out of your… out of thin air someone here at IIDB will call you on it

Biff the unclean

Wow, what a sucker you must be if you are conned by anything as transparently foolish as these things. A girl with a deep voice LOL, she really saw you coming. You need to work on your critical thinking skills.

one allegiance

And no one said one or the other didn't happen. Were you there? Do you know what order he did these things in. How does that prove that the Jesus story is fiction. You can't bully me out of this argument with your rudeness, your going to have to show me evidence that disproves that both of these things couldn't have happened. It doesn't say that he immediatly goes to the mountain after he is baptized. You have no evidence for your baseless claim. But I do, since you consider the Bible to be evidence...you're obviously using it.

Also there is no need to be so hostile.

So when you quote the bible to me it is supposed to mean something, but whe I quote it to you there is no relevance? Cool.

Patriarch Verlch

Did you miss the fact the earth is covered with 75% water? Yes it is possible for the flood to have happened, and in the fossil record we find fossils of fish with snapped necks, gasping for air. Didn't look like a slow process.

Jesus of Nazareth existed, you just want to question His Divinity, that is the only reason you even bring him up. The most central figure in Christendom. Go for it, it isn't going to get you any closer to watching Primordial Soup springing into LIFE.

Which I think it is good and all that He spends so much time catering to the ideas and what they think of him, when these same know it alls will be dead in a few short years. We all will be dead, so prepare to meet thy maker!!!! You can rest assured of that. You can prepare your worm food box just the way you like it. I'll just be in mine for a short while. A quick nap and back in action.

Patriarch Verlch

It requires faith, something apparently you have alot of, to believe monkey's can transform or mutate into human beings, both male and female, and reproduce one human male to another female.

Another thing that supports the biblical account is the amount of different languages out there. Supports the Tower of Babel, that would explain so many different tongues in the last few thousand years, just as an egg needs a fully formed mother, a child needs a mother with which to get ministered from and to learn her tongue. It's not something you learn in primordial soup.

Of course evolution scientists will come up with the best explanation to tell me how language evolved. In fact he might just be coming from a meeting of scientists that vote on the best answer to each new delma facing evolutionary biology/spiritual evolution. Yep that's right folks and any information that does not fit within the context of the framework, or back bone of the Modern Synthesis, gets thrown in the garbage, right where Christian ideals are.

Diogenes the Cynic

No. The Jews were never enslaved in Egypt in the first place.
Of course not.
What makes you think that anyone here has "faith" that life arose from primordial soup? The precise mechanics of how life arose on earth are still unknown (and completely unrelated to evolutionary theory) and you won't find many scientists who claim otherwise. We have plausible working hyptheses for how abiogenesis could have occurred but thus far, no one is claiming that we've figured it out and no one takes "primordial soup" on faith. One thing we do know is that there is no obvious reason why natural processes are insufficient to bring about and there is no necessity to posit magic as an explanation.

There is also no inherent contradiction between being a Christian and believing that life arose through natural processes. Lots and lots of Christians accept evolutionary theory and assume a natural process for abiogenesis.
The CPC is strong in this one.

Noah was a fictional character, dude, and you aren't being persecuted. Suffering a little ridicule for advocating preposterous, ill-informed and provably false beliefs is not going to kill you.
Cite? Source?
Great song. I used to play it in my band. You don't actually think it's evidence of anything, though, do you?