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Old 01-04-2009, 12:31 PM   #791
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I'm not sure what you're referring to here. I would label myself an agnostic. I apply a standard of reasonableness when considering whether to believe something.
What does reason tell you about the origins of life on this planet? where did it come from?
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I'm not sure what you're referring to here. I would label myself an agnostic. I apply a standard of reasonableness when considering whether to believe something.
What does reason tell you about the origins of life on this planet? where did it come from?

Reason tells me that I do not have enough information to fully understand the origins of life on this planet.
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There are not enough virgins for that plan. I do not beleive that absence of proof is really the issue. It would not matter. Of course God could have done that, but people would convince themselves that the perpetually dying man is from Satan and should be ignored. He has maintained a presence and makes himself known to those who draw near to him. He is God and we are not.

I was invited to discuss slavery in Mosaic law. You brought up the topic of the gospel.
The issue was not if men would find my plan more convincing (although I think they would) it was about providing all cultures in all times and places an equal chance to know what Yahweh's will is.

If you knew a man who discovered the cure for cancer and he decided to give it to some primitive tribe to spread to the world instead of using the most efficient means possible would you consider him humane?

That is about akin to what Christians are expecting me accept with their story of Yahweh, except, those billions who were never in earshot of his message die and burn forever.

Hey, if it works for you, great. I just can't chuck my brain out the window to accept such non-sense. :wave:
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so, poverty is a condition of ignorance and arrogance?
Nine times out of ten yes. Why do you and sugarhitman have to work so hard?

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actually, we cited archeological evidence from an Ivy League school,
And did you not read my responses? The Ivy League school's course outline says they believe the remains are from child sacrafice because the Bible says so, lol. Is that why you accept that the urns are evidence of child sacrafice, because the Bible says so?
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quotes from a 1st century historian.
No, you should make that a cherry picked quote by Diodorus, lol. You left out that the people he was talking about were being over run by the Greeks, and that he was relating a story told to him.

You left out that the Greeks and Romans said this about Carthage and it is looked upon as propaganda.

Diodorus isn't consider to be the best source as a historian, but I feel he did the best he could with what he had.

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What do you need, film footage?
No. Just something that doesn't look, smell and quack like propaganda.

What happened to these thousands of sources you said you had? Are you still reading them to see if 999 of them don't say because the Bible says so?

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What do you think is the cure for ignorance and arrogance?
For you? Well, if I posted it in the forum it'd get edited, and I'd receive a warning, lol.

If I pmed it to you, it could be considered harassment, I could get banned.

You probably heard it a million times a day in Army Boot Camp, I'm sure, so just let your mind drift back to the carefree, misspent days of our youth.... the answer should *POP* out of your head.
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Reason tells me that I do not have enough information to fully understand the origins of life on this planet.
Why not just make up your own or borrow what you like from what people thousands of years thought?
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What does reason tell you about the origins of life on this planet? where did it come from?

Reason tells me that I do not have enough information to fully understand the origins of life on this planet.
Do you beleive there is life on this planet?
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so, poverty is a condition of ignorance and arrogance?
Nine times out of ten yes. Why do you and sugarhitman have to work so hard?

Why did you have to join the Army to be able to get a "career"?


And did you not read my responses? The Ivy League school's course outline says they believe the remains are from child sacrafice because the Bible says so, lol. Is that why you accept that the urns are evidence of child sacrafice, because the Bible says so?

No, you should make that a cherry picked quote by Diodorus, lol. You left out that the people he was talking about were being over run by the Greeks, and that he was relating a story told to him.

You left out that the Greeks and Romans said this about Carthage and it is looked upon as propaganda.

Diodorus isn't consider to be the best source as a historian, but I feel he did the best he could with what he had.



No. Just something that doesn't look, smell and quack like propaganda.

What happened to these thousands of sources you said you had? Are you still reading them to see if 999 of them don't say because the Bible says so?

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What do you think is the cure for ignorance and arrogance?
For you? Well, if I posted it in the forum it'd get edited, and I'd receive a warning, lol.

If I pmed it to you, it could be considered harassment, I could get banned.

You probably heard it a million times a day in Army Boot Camp, I'm sure, so just let your mind drift back to the carefree, misspent days of our youth.... the answer should *POP* out of your head.

ok, I think you have summed up your position. good talking to you.
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There are not enough virgins for that plan. I do not beleive that absence of proof is really the issue. It would not matter. Of course God could have done that, but people would convince themselves that the perpetually dying man is from Satan and should be ignored. He has maintained a presence and makes himself known to those who draw near to him. He is God and we are not.

I was invited to discuss slavery in Mosaic law. You brought up the topic of the gospel.
The issue was not if men would find my plan more convincing (although I think they would) it was about providing all cultures in all times and places an equal chance to know what Yahweh's will is.

If you knew a man who discovered the cure for cancer and he decided to give it to some primitive tribe to spread to the world instead of using the most efficient means possible would you consider him humane?

That is about akin to what Christians are expecting me accept with their story of Yahweh, except, those billions who were never in earshot of his message die and burn forever.

Hey, if it works for you, great. I just can't chuck my brain out the window to accept such non-sense. :wave:
All men already have innate knowledge of God and his will. They supress it. Hell is never for lack of data.
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ok, I think you have summed up your position. good talking to you.
Lol, you could say that... but then you are still stuck slaving your life away, and slaving away itt horribly. Go hit something if it makes you feel better, instead of trying to insist that you actually know what you are talking about, except the bad choices you have made and the bad circumstances you have allowed yourself to get into and now are a slave to.
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Do you beleive there is life on this planet?
How did you figure it's a planet?
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